TC said:But that's wrong... since Nephilim is an actual word... It's in the Old Testament. Let's go and do what TC always does, and Ask the Rabbi (note: TC does not generally ask the Rabbi):
What are the "Nephilim" mentioned in the Torah?
The Nephilim are mentioned twice in the Torah (Genesis 6, Numbers 13). "Nephilim" means "the fallen ones." They were people of giant stature. It is not clear how large they were, but were large enough to scare other people. The Targum Yerushalmi, which is a Midrash, explains that they were Angels who descended to the Earth. According to this they were called fallen ones because they fell from their heavenly stature. The Ramban explains otherwise, that they were the other children of Adam. Because Adam, the First Man, was the handiwork of G-d, his children were of greater physical stature than their descendants. Because these people were so close to the Creator, they knew that they had no grandfather, they should have been spiritually elevated. Because they didn't live up to their potential they were considered "fallen ones."
Have you heard about Dragon*Con?I personally dread the day that I hear about a Wing Commander Convention, full of overweight, pimple-faced kids all wishing they could be Chris Blair. Or Todd Marshall. Or Lance Casey. Any of them.
Oh, well I don't think you have anything to worry about because a number of fans feel the same way and try to keep the stories/mods within the context of good WC-most of the time.it's a bad idea to take something as good as Wing Commander and turn it into a long, drawn-out mess such as Star Trek or Babylon-5.
We're not the ones who visit a WC fan site, register at its forums, and then rant about WC fans being overweight, pimple-faced kids all wishing they could be Chris Blair, though. Do you really have nothing better to do with your time? Now, *that's* pathetic.overmortal said:Oh, Christ! I just read a post or two about it. That's just sad. Sad sad sad. Please, kids, honestly, shoot yourselves. It's that hopeless.
In all honesty, I stumbled across this site, and indeed, this forum and community, during a search for a method to get Privateer to run on my dying system. While I was here, and feeling quite happy to know that there is indeed a WC community, I figured I'd take a cheap shot at promoting my Privateer stories. The thing is that I draw the line at conventions, and people who take it upon themselves to turn a perfectly good sci-fi into a cheesy sci-fantasy. Those are two separate qualms, by the way.Quarto said:We're not the ones who visit a WC fan site, register at its forums, and then rant about WC fans being overweight, pimple-faced kids all wishing they could be Chris Blair,
t.c.cgi said:I wouldn't want to be Chris Blair. I'd rather have been one of the no-name privateers somewhere in Gemini making a quick buck on random, low-level jobs. With a decked out Orion (yes I have a thing for crappy ships).
In that case, you shouldn't even complain about the other fanfic here, because I rather doubt yours are any less atrocious.overmortal said:While I was here, and feeling quite happy to know that there is indeed a WC community, I figured I'd take a cheap shot at promoting my Privateer stories.
Right, right. Because, after all, anyone who'd want to meet in person with other people who share the same hobby must be a stupid, pathetic teenager who lays awake at night longing for Angel.The thing is that I draw the line at conventions, and people who take it upon themselves to turn a perfectly good sci-fi into a cheesy sci-fantasy.
Yeah, we sure have a lot of people like that here. No, wait. We don't.It's a hobby to me, not a lifestyle, and I'm sure that there are others like me on this board who enjoy wing commander in some of their free time, but don't lay awake at night longing for Angel.
Oook... so, you don't debate which should be chosen... because you've already decided the answer. Oh yeah, I can see how that makes you so much less pathetic than the rest of us.Or debating over whether I should choose Chief Technician Rachael Corriolis or Lt. Robin Peters (Flint is the obvious choice, by the way. She's not a filthy whore like Rachael. And she wouldn't have bailed on Chris during his farmer days . . . had she not bought the farm on Kilrah.)
On the contrary, you haven't offended any of us in the least. Most people here got over their self-esteem problems back in their teens, so there isn't much a crazy stranger like you could say to bother us. Your bizarre and illogical stance is funny (and, in a way, tragic) enough that it was worth making a few comments about it, but that's about the limit of the effect your posts have had on me and the others here.overmortal said:What surprises me is that my opinions have offended you so greatly. Quite seriously, I'm just one person. If I'm THAT wrong, then why not ignore me altogether? If my logic is indeed that bad, then humor me with a chuckle and go about your conventioning with my blessing.