More Map Progress

Wedge009

Rogue Leader
Originally posted by Bandit LOAF
Things like Fiddler's Green and Midian (and Piper, mentioned in the losing tract equivalent of that conversation) will be added when I do the first major upgrade to the map...
That's all well and good... except for the fact that the Piper system is already in the Enigma Sector - Asimov Quadrant. ;)

Originally posted by Bandit LOAF
Anyway, I worked on the map a bit today...
Are these updates available on the links given at the start of the thread, or are you not going to release them until later?

Originally posted by Bandit LOAF
Please do not stupidify this thread.
I second that.
 

Mav23

Swabbie
Banned
Originally posted by Bandit LOAF
Please do not stupidify this thread.
Sorry LOAF-in advance, 'cause I know I was heading in that direction

(see, I'm getting better ;) )
 

Bandit LOAF

Long Live the Confederation!
Piper's there? I'll take credit for that!:)

The newest versions of the map aren't online yet -- the changes didn't seem to warrant a new upload. (The jpegs are a one-off thing that I do every noe and then... I actually work with fricking-huge bitmaps (4 megs per sector). I just didn't have time to upload new ones of those, though...

Armada Sectors -- Work has begun! I drew the first sector in the map... and now I'm trying to figure out how to set it up. My plan is to 'mirror' them, so that the Confed systems are on the left and the Kilrathi ones are on the right (so they'll line up properly with the rest of the map). That makes it a pain to label, though.

No updates tomorrow -- they're going to do something with lasers, so I won't be at work and can't do any map stuff.
 

Wedge009

Rogue Leader
Credit for what? I thought Piper was from the WCP map.

Anyway, I thought you've already done the Armada sectors - or are you re-doing them to fit in with the rest of the map? I find it hard to imagine where you'd put them, though. IIRC, the Lexington passed through Goddard transfer station, so the jump point couldn't be far from there, could it? That'd be a very long cross-sector jump.

Additionally, I thought the intent of Armada was to find a way to Kilrah, although I guess Confed really had no idea if the new jump point would lead there, so I supposed that point is moot.

And who's doing what with lasers? Oh, is that your 22nd/23rd eye operation? Hope it goes well.
 

Bandit LOAF

Long Live the Confederation!
My theory is that the sectors go *above* the current Terran/Kilrathi border (literally place them on top of the center of the map) -- look at the little 'area chart' on the current map -- it's just a sliver of the full 3D galaxy.

Landreich fits directly below Enigma, which makes a lot of sense when you stick all the map sectors together (http://www.blacklance.org/loaf/gorgon/averylargemapindeed.jpg should be an old version of them all stuck).

From Goddard I think we should follow the Armada Gauntlet mission systems -- with Terragon and so on.

Nothing so dramatic or dangerous as surgery, just a procedure thing <G>

(Credit for Piper meaning it might have been my suggestion in the first place... I know the various WC2 mentioned systems were in the original addition list I sent in to the original wcprophecy.com... which is how various fans got their names on the map <G>)
 

Wedge009

Rogue Leader
Ah, of course, need to think in 3D, not just 2D. :)

I don't think I ever recorded the Gauntlet system names, but that sounds like a good idea. From Confed's side, of course, right?

You sent in a list? Was that at their request?

BTW, is that a serious link you posted? 'Cause I can't get it and my uni's server is very slow today for some reason.
 

Ghost

Emperor
Why you put Gemini system in Humboldt Qaudrant, IIRC, Gemini system doesn´t exist in the game. (I know that is the Gemini Sector)?
 

Bandit LOAF

Long Live the Confederation!
Here's jpegs of the latest map -- this version should piece together to make a full map perfectly, and has various spelling and size corrections. The first Armada sector has also been added. I'm maintaining a list of changes made to the original Prophecy map.

http://www.blacklance.org/loaf/gorgon/avalon-final.jpg
http://www.blacklance.org/loaf/gorgon/hawking-final.jpg
http://www.blacklance.org/loaf/gorgon/argent-final.jpg
http://www.blacklance.org/loaf/gorgon/gemini-final.jpg
http://www.blacklance.org/loaf/gorgon/sol-final.jpg
http://www.blacklance.org/loaf/gorgon/enigma-final.jpg
http://www.blacklance.org/loaf/gorgon/trkpahn-final.jpg
http://www.blacklance.org/loaf/gorgon/vega-final.jpg
http://www.blacklance.org/loaf/gorgon/epsilon-final.jpg
http://www.blacklance.org/loaf/gorgon/vukartag-final.jpg
http://www.blacklance.org/loaf/gorgon/kilrah-final.jpg
http://www.blacklance.org/loaf/gorgon/mshrak-final.jpg
http://www.blacklance.org/loaf/gorgon/sector01-final.jpg

Changes:
- {Gemini Sector} Fariss Q./Clarke Q.: Eden-Rikel jump added.
- {Enigma Sector} Grills Q.: Axis System renamed Axius System.
- {Enigma Sector} Grills Q.: Speardon System renamed Speridon System.
- {Enigma Sector} Grills Q.: Callimachius System renamed Callimachus System.
- {Armada 01 Sector}: Added.
 

Wedge009

Rogue Leader
Originally posted by Bandit LOAF
http://www.blacklance.org/loaf/gorgon/sector01-final.jpg

Changes:
- {Gemini Sector} Fariss Q./Clarke Q.: Eden-Rikel jump added.
- {Enigma Sector} Grills Q.: Speardon System renamed Speridon System.
- {Enigma Sector} Grills Q.: Callimachius System renamed Callimachus System.
- {Armada 01 Sector}: Added.
I thought the Gemini Sector already had the Eden 'backdoor' jump line.

Why Speridon? That's completely new to me.

If Captain Johnny 'stuffed up' the names, does that mean that SO is also wrong since in one of the cutscenes it shows reinforcements coming from Callimachius?

And I can't seem to get the Armada sector. My uni's server is still having problems, so that could be the reason, but it might not.

[It is, I just got the Armada map now.]

[BTW, are you going to work out more inspirational names for the Armada sectors other than 01, 02, 03... ? :)]
 

Bandit LOAF

Long Live the Confederation!
I thought the Gemini Sector already had the Eden 'backdoor' jump line.
The list is everything that's changed from the original Prophecy map -- which lacks the 'backdoor' jump line. (It was one of the first things I did to the map, though).

Why Speridon? That's completely new to me.
Sorry, should be SparAdon. Although, who knows... I'm having second thoughts.

If Captain Johnny 'stuffed up' the names, does that mean that SO is also wrong since in one of the cutscenes it shows reinforcements coming from Callimachius?
Hmmm... I suppose this could go either way, since both names are correct in the classical sense (IIRC).

[BTW, are you going to work out more inspirational names for the Armada sectors other than 01, 02, 03... ? ]
Probably -- but not yet <G>

I'll make some name changes... and more Armada sectors! My goal is to have all 11 done and ready to be corrected by Monday. (I've doen 1-5 so far).
 

Bandit LOAF

Long Live the Confederation!
Armada maps contain many name errors -- will work on those this weekend...

http://www.blacklance.org/loaf/gorgon/avalon-final.jpg
http://www.blacklance.org/loaf/gorgon/hawking-final.jpg
http://www.blacklance.org/loaf/gorgon/argent-final.jpg
http://www.blacklance.org/loaf/gorgon/gemini-final.jpg
http://www.blacklance.org/loaf/gorgon/sol-final.jpg
http://www.blacklance.org/loaf/gorgon/enigma-final.jpg
http://www.blacklance.org/loaf/gorgon/trkpahn-final.jpg
http://www.blacklance.org/loaf/gorgon/vega-final.jpg
http://www.blacklance.org/loaf/gorgon/epsilon-final.jpg
http://www.blacklance.org/loaf/gorgon/vukartag-final.jpg
http://www.blacklance.org/loaf/gorgon/kilrah-final.jpg
http://www.blacklance.org/loaf/gorgon/mshrak-final.jpg
http://www.blacklance.org/loaf/gorgon/sector01-final.jpg
http://www.blacklance.org/loaf/gorgon/sector02-final.jpg
http://www.blacklance.org/loaf/gorgon/sector03-final.jpg
http://www.blacklance.org/loaf/gorgon/sector04-final.jpg
http://www.blacklance.org/loaf/gorgon/sector05-final.jpg
http://www.blacklance.org/loaf/gorgon/sector06-final.jpg
http://www.blacklance.org/loaf/gorgon/sector07-final.jpg
http://www.blacklance.org/loaf/gorgon/sector08-final.jpg
http://www.blacklance.org/loaf/gorgon/sector09-final.jpg
http://www.blacklance.org/loaf/gorgon/sector10-final.jpg
http://www.blacklance.org/loaf/gorgon/sector11-final.jpg

Changes:
- {Gemini Sector} Fariss Q./Clarke Q.: Eden-Rikel jump added.
- {Enigma Sector} Grills Q.: Axis System renamed Axius/Axis System.
- {Enigma Sector} Grills Q.: Speardon System renamed Speradon/Speardon System.
- {Enigma Sector} Grills Q.: Callimachius System renamed Callimachus/Callimachius System.
- {Epsilon Sector} Deneb Q.: Torgo System renamed Torgo/Ko'bar Yagar System.
- {Epsilon Sector} Antares Q.: Bistangio System renamed Bistangio/Bistango System.
- {Vega Sector} Downing Q.: Kurasawa System renamed Kurasawa/Warach Tha System.
- {Vega Sector} Downing Q.: Venice System renamed Venice/Kharak Tar System.
- {Vega Sector} Day Q.: McAuliffe System renamed McAuliffe/Vikyah System.
- {Vega Sector} Douglas Q.: Vega System renamed Vega/Krat'na System.
- {Kilrah Sector} Kur'u Caxki Q.: Hhrass System renamed Hhrass/H'hrass System.
- {Kilrah Sector} Kur'u-Pak Q.: Gmar System renamed Gmar/G'mar System.
- {Sol Sector} Terra Q.: Sol System renamed Sol/Nak'tara System.
- {Armada 01 Sector}: Added.
- {Armada 02 Sector}: Added.
- {Armada 03 Sector}: Added.
- {Armada 04 Sector}: Added.
- {Armada 05 Sector}: Added.
- {Armada 06 Sector}: Added.
- {Armada 07 Sector}: Added.
- {Armada 08 Sector}: Added.
- {Armada 09 Sector}: Added.
- {Armada 10 Sector}: Added.
- {Armada 11 Sector}: Added.
 

Bandit LOAF

Long Live the Confederation!
Here's the correction list for the Armada Sectors -- based on my source at home, instead of grainy jpegs at work. Corrections will be made Monday morning...

SECTOR 1
Panda = Penda
Charger (Cover)
Suide I = Suid I
Suide III = Suid III

SECTOR 2
Debarus = Debaruz

SECTOR 3
Spendrel = Spandrel
Castel = Cartel
Islibit = Islibt

SECTOR 4
Trent = Trint

SECTOR 5
Nepalm = Neplam
Anstope = Anrtope
Kryfien = Krylien
Expase (Upper) = Heartland
Klentith = Kientith

SECTOR 6
Silver = Sliver
Baoine = Baione

SECTOR 7
Plaques = Pleques
Grendel = Grandal
Fosters = Fosterz
Faiden = Raiden

SECTOR 8
Palefire -> Bedlar doesn't exist.
Nanjas = Nanjaz
Doons = Doonz
Barlad = Bariad
Greshna = Grashna

SECTOR 9
Adamna = Adamra
Welbadda = Weltadda
Druber = Drutar
Baston = Barton
Wreckstra I = Wrekstra I
Wreckstra II = Wreckstra II
Wreckstra III = Wreckstra III

SECTOR 10
Panters = Pantera
Hawulf = Hawuf
Fark = Rark

SECTOR 11
Tenfraz = Teafraz
Drunjun = Drunjon
Final I = Rinel I
 

Wedge009

Rogue Leader
Originally posted by Bandit LOAF
Sorry, should be SparAdon.
Uh oh. Please tell me you meant Speradon. There's only so many times one can muck it up. ;)

I'm at home at the moment, and I won't try downloading the maps again with dial-up, but this is what I noticed from the last time I downloaded them:
M'shrak Sector still has some writing left at the bottom.
Vukar Tag Sector still has some of the original red border.
Armada sector is mirrored to have Confed 'left' and Kilrathi 'right', which I understand, since that's the way the WCP map is oriented. However, the green 'border' worlds are not technically part of the UBW - do we make allowance for that. Also, how do we travel in between sectors or from Goddard to sector 1? Include the systems mentioned in the Gauntlet as you mentioned before?

Originally posted by Bandit LOAF
- {Epsilon Sector} Antares Q.: Bistangio System renamed Bistangio/Bistango System.
Isn't Bistanglo? That's how I remember it was spelt in the WC3 script.

And am I the only one interested in the gargantuan task LOAF is undertaking?
 
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