Maniac's more Deadly than the Kats

Lt.Overload

Rear Admiral
Maniac was the one who killed Rosie, accidently, of course.
Although it's not confirmed as his fault, Vanguard died after playing cards with Maniac.
And Catscratch was taking Maniac's advice, leading to his death.

Seems like he's caused alot of deaths.
 

t.c.cgi

Vice Admiral
Don't forget the freighter Maniac toasted with a dumbfire missile. Or was it a heatseaker? Hmm...

Ramming speed!
 

Mekt-Hakkikt

Mpanty's bane
And don't forget that the Wild Eagles from SO2 were trained to fly just like him and most of them died too!

Don't forget the freighter Maniac toasted with a dumbfire missile. Or was it a heatseaker? Hmm...

I am not sure but I remember it as FF...
 

Aginor

Vice Admiral
Vagabond?

That was foreshadowing, man. It was like, destiny.

Yeah, it was Vagabond.

But there were those two pilots in Prophecy who died on his wing because he couldn't help them.
Their names were Vanguard and Cantrell, IIRC.
 

LeHah

212 Squadron - "The Old Man's Eyes And Ears"
Let's not forget Lt Bean (the vet pilot from the bar in WC4) died while flying under Maniac while trying to find the jamming freighter in the WC4 novel.
 

Bandit LOAF

Long Live the Confederation!
I am not sure but I remember it as FF...

You're both right! In the game, Spirit tells you it was a Heat Seeker but in the Strategy Guide Maniac claims it was a Friend-or-Foe.

Maniac was the one who killed Rosie, accidently, of course.

I think Rosie was the one who killed Rosie -- she disobeyed orders... to impress the guy she liked. *She* was the hardened veteran who should have known better -- Maniac was flying his second combat mission even (third counting the training flight that turned into a battle against a blockade runner on Academy...).

Although it's not confirmed as his fault, [Vagabond] died after playing cards with Maniac.

It's not even implied to be his fault. His 'dead man's hand' in the poker game is just a signifier that he's going to die -- not that the person who beat him is going to kill him somehow.

And Catscratch was taking Maniac's advice, leading to his death.

But according to Star*Soldier, Catscratch is still alive thirty years later... and reviewing Maniac's book. :)

And don't forget that the Wild Eagles from SO2 were trained to fly just like him and most of them died too!

None of the Wild Eagles died flying, though. One was killed (and one crippled) when the Concordia's flight deck was bombed and the third died of radiation poisoning after Blair destroyed Ayer's Rock.

But there were those two pilots in Prophecy who died on his wing because he couldn't help them.
Their names were Vanguard and Cantrell, IIRC.

Losing your wingman is not at all the same thing as killing your wingman -- and you only know that this happened in the first place because of a cutscene in which Casey tells Maniac that "you did the best you could to help those rookies survive. Which is all a good squadron commander can ever do".

But yes, there is the transport crew that he accidentally killed.

... which, all in all, balances fairly well against his 2,000 air-to-air victories against the enemy (*before* Prophecy!).
 

t.c.cgi

Vice Admiral
But yes, there is the transport crew that he accidentally killed.

...which, all in all, balances fairly well against his 2,000 air-to-air victories against the enemy (*before* Prophecy!).

I bet Blair had an accidental fratricide or two in the official story path. Goodness knows I've shot the wrong thing at the wrong time at least once in all of the games. I went down pretty quick once when the Concordia decided I was a traitor when I missed a bomber...
 
I've shot him down on purpose before. I justified it saying I was safer flying solo than with a wingman like him. I remember that final burst of fire. Then "No! I don't wanna die!!!" :)
 

Mekt-Hakkikt

Mpanty's bane
(...)
None of the Wild Eagles died flying, though. One was killed (and one crippled) when the Concordia's flight deck was bombed and the third died of radiation poisoning after Blair destroyed Ayer's Rock.

(...)

Yeah, I wasn't serious. I mean, Blair and Bear lose a lot of wingmen in the novels because it's more dramatic...and Blair loses 2 carriers in the games.
 

Wedge009

Rogue Leader
I've shot him down on purpose before. I justified it saying I was safer flying solo than with a wingman like him. I remember that final burst of fire. Then "No! I don't wanna die!!!" :)
It's okay. You can always claim you received permission to do so from Colonel Halcyon.
 
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