Kilrathi Grand Fleet...could it have been stopped?

I was just called a shitheel, it hurt my delicate feelings. Anyway, that's Cadet shitheel to you buddy.
 
Colonel Jim said:
I've been thinking of this sentence. For a 24 year old Aerospace Enginier, It's a quite immature reply.

Here 18 years is considerd adulthood. I don't know what 24 means in your country, but let's try to keep up the level in this forum. Lets stay mature and nice to each other. ok?
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"Colonel" (I will assume this rank is imaginary considering you are 18),

What you just said doesn't alter the fact that my argument was right, nor the fact that I am in fact 23 instead of 24 years old. Instead of trying to rebutt my post with a logical argument to try to convince us that your argument was right, you instead pulled an emotional "can't we all just get along?!?!?!" plea when you took too much flak and want the heat taken off you.
 
psych said:
Face it you are both wrong and a turd at the same time.

Let's say I have an assault rifle with armor piercing bullets and I was able to penetrate an inch of armor on a car and I really screwed it up. Now I turn my attention on a 3 story mansion with no armor, you think my little assault rifle is going to magically make it lose its structural integrity, or make it explode, or make it all break apart and all of it crumble down?

The car I blew up with the armor plating was the Vesuvius, the house that wouldn't die is the dreadnought.

So can the Vesuvius take more punishment then the dreadnought just cause the armor is thicker?

No. (And if you reverse my answer you get 'on', which means the 18-year old Colonel can sit 'on' my fist).
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I know I'll take flak from those hammered by Psych, but, if you think about it, he's right. Instead of the Wing Commander Universe, get out of the box and think more WWII...I might be wrong, but it's a good start.

Even with armor plating, Carriers (the small Escort Carriers to the huge Essex-class killers) are built for long range combat; they depend on their fighter complement and are thus unsuited for close range combat aginst anything except the most lightly armed and armored merchant ships. Battleships seek to anihilate other warships. Firepower can be focused on bombardment, but any warship Cruiser size and larger really are there to fight other ships. I'll admit I have read very little on the tech. manuals. However, if you examine those schematics, you will find that, in general, (Remember, fiction can change the rules) cruisers and larger tend to outgun carriers. They are also more heavily shielded and armored.

Calling the play: Thrakhath will probably wait until the Vesuvius' fighters are right on top of him before he scrambles all fighters. The crossfire will permit him to hack away at Confed's fighter superiority. the engagement's survivors will proceed to attack the engines of Vesuvius, preventing it from escaping so the Dreadnought's guns can be brought to bear. Though there will be exstansive damage dealt, the Cats will triumph.

Thrakhath: 1
Tolwyn: 0
 
Bonkus Maximus said:
Calling the play: Thrakhath will probably wait until the Vesuvius' fighters are right on top of him before he scrambles all fighters. The crossfire will permit him to hack away at Confed's fighter superiority. the engagement's survivors will proceed to attack the engines of Vesuvius, preventing it from escaping so the Dreadnought's guns can be brought to bear. Though there will be exstansive damage dealt, the Cats will triumph.
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Um ... why should Thrakkath wait until the enemy fighters are RIGHT ON TOP OF HIM? It really doesn't make sense to wait until the enemy is ready to knock you one before you launch your fighters, even if you can take many "punches" before then. In fact, if the Hvar'kann has as many fighters as a capship of that size should, he could probably overwhelm the Vesuvius by the sheer might of his bomber wings, while the Confed commander would be forced to divide his fighter wings between defense and offense.
 
Bob McDob said:
while the Confed commander would be forced to divide his fighter wings between defense and offense.
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"A good fort needs a gap. The enemy must be lured in. So we can attack them. If we only defend, we lose the war." - Kambei Shimada
 
Considering that the ship is 22km long and its flight deck runs most of the length...

in order to get the 5 hakagas going to hit earth thrakhath had to strip most of his other ships of their veteran pilots. I can imagine one dreadnaught taking the same amount of veteran flyers as the 5 carriers heading to earth. I mean...it is 22km long. This is like comparing a subcompact to a stretch H2 or something.

The dreadnaught is basically hands down the most powerful ship in wc. in order to stop it nothing short of a full fleet deployment could even hope to slow the damn thing down.
 
psych said:
"Colonel" (I will assume this rank is imaginary considering you are 18),

What you just said doesn't alter the fact that my argument was right, nor the fact that I am in fact 23 instead of 24 years old. Instead of trying to rebutt my post with a logical argument to try to convince us that your argument was right, you instead pulled an emotional "can't we all just get along?!?!?!" plea when you took too much flak and want the heat taken off you.
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I know I can't prove my statement, because the whole issue was hypothetical, and getting emotional about specs in a Science Fiction Computergame would be rather stupid. I just scetch situations.

The reason I said it was because I didn't like that whole "sit on my fist" crap. I just wanted to say that because when something is on my mind I just confront the person and I'm not going to bitch around someone's back nor will I say the same things back to him
 
Colonel Jim said:
I know I can't prove my statement, because the whole issue was hypothetical, and getting emotional about specs in a Science Fiction Computergame would be rather stupid. I just scetch situations.

The reason I said it was because I didn't like that whole "sit on my fist" crap. I just wanted to say that because when something is on my mind I just confront the person and I'm not going to bitch around someone's back nor will I say the same things back to him
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Considering how you just registered this month and have already started to badmouth WC Been-There-Done-Thats who have been in the WC community for almost 8 years, keep on doing what you think is right. That'll really help you build up that good reputation in this community.

The previous guy didn't last very long :)
 
None of them last long.

McGruff said:
I was just called a shitheel, it hurt my delicate feelings. Anyway, that's Cadet shitheel to you buddy.
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"You need two promotions to get to be an asshole." :)
 
Bob, I think you and LeHah got me to be more specific....you want the enemy fighters close enough so that they just can't turn and run...and since you know Thrak's fighters are all Drakhai, all the time, even the Darkets weill be dangerous...now...my big mistake: he probably already launched all his Strakha and placed them in a position behind the stirke wing...If you guys want, I'll post what was my take on the engagement between the Vesuvius and...what's the name of Thrakhath's DN?
 
Bonkus Maximus said:
Bob, I think you and LeHah got me to be more specific....you want the enemy fighters close enough so that they just can't turn and run...and since you know Thrak's fighters are all Drakhai, all the time, even the Darkets weill be dangerous...now...my big mistake: he probably already launched all his Strakha and placed them in a position behind the stirke wing...If you guys want, I'll post what was my take on the engagement between the Vesuvius and...what's the name of Thrakhath's DN?
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1.) Strakha as well as all cloaked ships are pretty rare in the Kilrathi Empire. If they're sending them against a point of opprotunity, it's most likely against a superior defended force. In other words, you'll have more firepower vs the Kilrathi's cloaking.

2.) Thrakhath's dreadnaught is named Hvar'kann
 
psych said:
Considering how you just registered this month and have already started to badmouth WC Been-There-Done-Thats who have been in the WC community for almost 8 years, keep on doing what you think is right. That'll really help you build up that good reputation in this community.

The previous guy didn't last very long :)
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Which "whatshisname"? The one who apparently registered a second nick to get someone on his side of an argument, or the ones who build SRA-style supercarriers? :D
 
Haesslich said:
Which "whatshisname"? The one who apparently registered a second nick to get someone on his side of an argument, or the ones who build SRA-style supercarriers? :D
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Hehe wrong Haesslich, the one who tried to sue me and bring "legal reprecussions" because he was a minor and "protected by law"!

But you do have a good point though, you mentioned the previous guys before him :)
 
One by one, all of our favorite newbies have dropped away. Even Sylvester has stopped talking, despite the fact that he was getting better about not sticking his ass in his mouth every time he opened it.
 
Antman said:
I'm still here. So watch what you say before you don't last long.
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Now, if that sentence was grammatically correct, then I'd be worried. Thankfully, it's utter nonsense in its current form.
 
Antman said:
I'm still here. So watch what you say before you don't last long.
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Officially you are still here on this site, but your reputation (remember that first impression is everything) has already been tarred (and you have also incurred the attention of the very old-school WC vets and Been-There-Done-Thats who are not-CIC staff members - who can make or break someone's rep around here) to the point that any further attempts on your part to make a good impression to the WC community will be . . . that's right . . . meaningless.

(and when/if you report this post to the moderator, you will notice that there are no hints of flames, cursing or harrassment, just the blunt and honest truth)
 
Haesslich: Grammatik ist fuer Neulinge.

Note, Psych, that there is a big difference between truth and opinion.
 
Antman said:
Haesslich: Grammatik ist fuer Neulinge.

Note, Psych, that there is a big difference between truth and opinion.
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Ant: Threats are only threats when the target understands them. Otherwise, they're just funny. Grammar helps organize threats, or similar statements, into a form that the target can translate into a message that conveys the correct meaning. Otherwise, it's little more than a demonstration of utter incompetence, the verbal equivalent of a pratfall or shooting your own foot off.

Grammar has its uses. Unlike some people around here.

Incidentally: The above statement was the truth. Your statement about grammar and Psych's response is an opinion.
 
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