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I have yet to find a source that can back up where and how many fleets there were in WC during the entire course of the Kilrathi/Terran war. Also deployment zones. Could someone help me out here?

What I have is:
3rd Fleet in Sol (Earth defense)
6th Fleet in Epsilon (Eventually destroyed in Deneb 2667?)
7th Fleet in Vega and Trk'Pahn (Shrug)
8th Fleet in Gemini (I guess for the duration of the entire war)
14th Fleet in Enigma (and eventually also Epsilon to cover for the loss of the 6th)
19th Fleet diverse deployment (Only in existance when the CVE and Eagle-class CVLs are brought in)

Other than this, I'm lost. I figure the 1st Fleet was probably the one completely shattered to bits in 2634 McAuliffe Ambush Engagement.

Would appreciate any additional help here.
 
Hello there,

I will assume you got that info from Fleet Tactics. That's my site and I hope I can logically explain the stuff behind what I did.

Third Fleet was used to defend Sol, but it was also in the front lines as well. Third Fleet was Admiral Bainbridge's old force before he was assassinated and End Run had the Bainbridge as the commander of a 4 carrier fleet. I think it would be logical to put two and two together. Plus the Third Fleet was around in WC4, then they were giving the Border Worlds a hard time (but they only had one fleet carrier around 2673, the Lexington).

I used the 7th Fleet for Vega (and Trakpahn, there's only like 3-4 Confed systems in that border) because the 7th Fleet was the force that was slaughtered in the 2634 McAuliffe Ambush. And McAuliffe was in the Vega Sector.

The Sixth Fleet is history. Thrakhath decimated it them and captured Deneb Sector Command in 6 hours. Even after ConFed brought in reinforcements to help the Sixth Fleet regroup, Thrakhath attacked and wiped it out for good. It would be logical to assume that of nine carriers destroyed during this time (explained in End Run), the Sixth Fleet's decimation had a big part to do with it.

Gemini Forces. It's in the ass-end of Confederation space. There's a ConFleet presence there, but no where as big or as numerous as the ones on the front.

For the special CVE raider task force and all of that, I took that from the Armada manual, which referred to Admiral Price Hancock as the guy who was famous for coming up with "behind-the-lines" action. It seems this command has a lot of Special Ops forces. There's the secret Lexington in Armada, the Confed escort carriers which which referenced in False Colors and the Kilrathi War News portion of the Armada manual, and the TCS Eagle - which operated independently of the main fleet and was crippled when she was about to launch a T-Bomb strike.
 
The 6th Fleet thing is kind of odd, because there's a reference in Privateer of it being lost around Midgard in 2669. I suppose it's possible that it was reformed after the Deneb debacle.
 
two notes here
first, there is a midgard system in Deneb (Epsilon) Sector too
also, the rumors you hear from the barman are not always true
easy to imagine it was twisted up rumor. it happens in real life, why not in privateer?
 
The 8th and 19th on your list are non-canon, AFAIK.

The one you're missing is the 4th Fleet, also assigned to the Vega Sector.
 
Thanks,
So if 8th is non-canon, anyone happen to catch what the designation was of the fleet in Gemini?

Now if only Chris Roberts decided to go out on a limb and write a canon sourcebook of the WC Universe. *sigh*
 
They never give a designation for the fleet in Gemini.

(I think people are giving Chris Roberts too much credit for WC story type stuff, though - the only story he's actually credited for was the third draft of the WC Movie. He's the guy who came up with the gameplay concepts and the technology behind WC... but he's not necessarily versed in its fictional history. :))
 
A sourcebook would be very cool. It could also be a source of some trouble, depending on how it was done.
 
Bandit LOAF said:
He's the guy who came up with the gameplay concepts and the technology behind WC... but he's not necessarily versed in its fictional history. :))
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Who came up with the basic history then? Didn´t he invent the Kilrathi, the war and Confed?
 
I guess it depends what you mean by "basic history" - I think Chris Roberts came up with the idea of having war in space, just as the basis of the game. A lot of other people filled it in with the details we know today (Chris' proposal involved a "Terran Empire" and whatnot).

Most of the details of the WC universe really weren't around in WC1 - it was fairly abstract. You can credit Ellen Guon with creating much of the 'bible' that WCs hence were based on... delving into the war between Confed and the Kilrathi, the Kilrathi culture, etc.
 
And that shotglass talk about sending the Kilrathi POWs back home in barrels, what was that all about?
 
He said to send them home "Lock, stock, and barrel", which is a refference to shipping guns, I believe. Also, you can't have guns and butter!
 
"Lock, stock and barrel" is a metaphor in English which means "the whole thing". Sending the Kilrathi back "lock, stock and barrel" means getting rid of them all.
 
Wouldn't it just be nice if someone hit powerball or megamillions and just finianced a bunch of WC games that were able to do everything we ever wanted.......ahhhh that would be nice...we could do them all lock, stock and barrel
 
IMHO, putting full control of a franchise into the hands of its most fanatic fans isn't necessarily the wisest idea :p I mean, for every serious fan project (UE, WCS, Standoff) you have dozens of weird, bizarre and fanboyish deals.
 
yes, but we lock him and the person he's criticizing in seperate rooms so there's something left of the target afterwards. :D

IMO instead of funding a new game what would be cool is "UE, Standoff, and Saga all have income. Have fun."

Too bad im near-broke. :(
 
Bandit LOAF said:
"Lock, stock and barrel" is a metaphor in English which means "the whole thing". Sending the Kilrathi back "lock, stock and barrel" means getting rid of them all.
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Oh, thanks. That makes a lot of sense. So they were not returning the prisioners to Kilrah for no reason?
 
They probably figured that shipping them back to Kilrah alive would be much better than just slaughtering them outright, like cattle. I'm sure we arranged a prisoner exchange.
 
That's taking the "take no prisioners" policy to a whole new level: release them! Do Kilrathi actually exchange prisioner? Isn't that even more dishonrable than surrendering to begin with?
 
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