TopGun said:Is there anywhere you can see the deleted scenes from WCM?
Death said:Oh, and AGWC from 1997 called. It wants its WCM arguments back.
Death said:No, the deleted scenes are not available anywhere.
Bearcat said:...the movie had nothing to do with the WC series. And that's fine, but it got my hopes up. And the production/acting values were pretty low. I thought everybody was together in collective frustration, but it seems like some people are just going secret service and protecting their messiah rather than understanding that you can't actually punch people over the internet and admitting that the man just goofed.
Probably just as a sign of the times, WC3 and beyond felt like they had lost their spirit. The formerly detailed cockpits became dull, capital ships looked like hollow boxes on the outside and in (graphics errors let you fly inside), the explosion of enemy fighters was anti-climactic, and the whole live action thing seemed unfortunate...
Bearcat said:Ok, I see the WC community is highly defensive about any product that slaps the WC name on itself and tries to pose as part of the series.
Bearcat said:In general, my beef with our friend Chris is just that with every game in the series he gives us a puppy to love, and we spend the whole game protecting it, then in the next game he says, "Oh well, it died. Tough shit, you lose."
Bearcat said:The movie: Do I really need to elaborate? I wanted to like this movie, I really tried to be open minded about it, but the movie had nothing to do with the WC series.
Bearcat said:I thought everybody was together in collective frustration, but it seems like some people are just going secret service and protecting their messiah
Bearcat said:Probably just as a sign of the times, WC3 and beyond felt like they had lost their spirit. The formerly detailed cockpits became dull, capital ships looked like hollow boxes on the outside and in (graphics errors let you fly inside), the explosion of enemy fighters was anti-climactic, and the whole live action thing seemed unfortunate.
Bearcat said:Ok, I see the WC community is highly defensive about any product that slaps the WC name on itself
Bearcat said:and tries to pose as part of the series.
Bearcat said:In general, my beef with our friend Chris is just that with every game in the series he gives us a puppy to love, and we spend the whole game protecting it, then in the next game he says, "Oh well, it died. Tough shit, you lose."
Bearcat said:WC3-4: Blair's girl is gone. So is his coolness. No longer a kick ass top gun, he's a redneck farmer for no good reason.
Bearcat said:Your very allegiance to the Confederation gets tossed too
Bearcat said:(how many years did Blair fight alongside those confed pilots? Then he just turns on them and starts murdering on a whim? No way)
Bearcat said:Prophecy: Well, looks like you don't even get to keep Blair himself alive anymore. Good one, Chris. Guess who DID survive though. Halcon said we could blast him back in WC1, and by all rights we should have, but I guess the moral of the story is that being an asshole like Maniac pays off in the end.
Bearcat said:Probably just as a sign of the times, WC3 and beyond felt like they had lost their spirit.
WC3 was the high point of the WC series. "Mankind was at its Zenith when fighting the Kilrathi."
Bearcat said:WC3-4: ... Your very allegiance to the Confederation gets tossed too (how many years did Blair fight alongside those confed pilots? Then he just turns on them and starts murdering on a whim? No way)
Martini Doctor said:What I meant is: Why had they to go back to the beginnings and couldn't simply go on after the last WC game?
Bearcat said:Ok, I see the WC community is highly defensive about any product that slaps the WC name on itself and tries to pose as part of the series. .
Bearcat said:In general, my beef with our friend Chris is just that with every game in the series he gives us a puppy to love, and we spend the whole game protecting it, then in the next game he says, "Oh well, it died. Tough shit, you lose." And by "puppy" I mean:
WC1-2: The Tiger's Claw and most of it's crew, plus your career and 10 years of your life (cause they would retire a pilot with 500 kills just because he didn't save the day once)
WC2-3: The Concordia and most of it's crew, including Angel and Hobbes (that sleeper agent thing was BS)
WC3-4: Blair's girl is gone. So is his coolness. No longer a kick ass top gun, he's a redneck farmer for no good reason. Your very allegiance to the Confederation gets tossed too (how many years did Blair fight alongside those confed pilots? Then he just turns on them and starts murdering on a whim? No way)
Prophecy: Well, looks like you don't even get to keep Blair himself alive anymore. Good one, Chris. Guess who DID survive though. Halcon said we could blast him back in WC1, and by all rights we should have, but I guess the moral of the story is that being an asshole like Maniac pays off in the end.
Bearcat said:The movie: Do I really need to elaborate? I wanted to like this movie, I really tried to be open minded about it, but the movie had nothing to do with the WC series. And that's fine, but it got my hopes up. And the production/acting values were pretty low. I thought everybody was together in collective frustration, but it seems like some people are just going secret service and protecting their messiah rather than understanding that you can't actually punch people over the internet and admitting that the man just goofed.
Bearcat said:Probably just as a sign of the times, WC3 and beyond felt like they had lost their spirit. The formerly detailed cockpits became dull, capital ships looked like hollow boxes on the outside and in (graphics errors let you fly inside), the explosion of enemy fighters was anti-climactic, and the whole live action thing seemed unfortunate.
Ridgerunner said:You misspelled seance.
Iceman16 said:so did you. at least Martini Doctor was closer to the correct spelling.
Vermin said:Yes, im not a fan of the WC movie - but i am a fan of the games, the movie for me just wasnt compeling enough - the budget constraints added too the films problems, maybe with a bigger budget, better actors, a stronger story (the backbone story was ok but maybe it just needed more time too be worked on and fluffed out), i would of loved it - but it wasnt Chris Roberts fault.
Maybe ive been bastardized by big budget films.
Vermin said:I truly believe one day Chris may return too the WC universe with another game in the future - rights and EA giving them up or agreeing to another pending, but too say hes abandoned the community? thats wrong, because WC was his baby.
He has given everyone here something too come talk about, something too enjoy over and over again, and as was stated before mistakes were made down the line, but nothing is perfect. Comming here and saying alot of negative (and not backing them up) things about the WC universe and products, will and has achieved nothing.
Bearcat said:Either that or he knows I'd punch him in the face for making that horrible Wing Commander movie.