Base launch or patrol intercept?
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Actually 2 of the Excals get toasted in the first 30 seconds of battle. 
But the other 4 are going to have a tough time. These aren't no Kilrathi out of the computer game, they're combat veterans whereas the Excaliburs have Confed pilots who haven't seen any action in like two decades.
But the other 4 are going to have a tough time. These aren't no Kilrathi out of the computer game, they're combat veterans whereas the Excaliburs have Confed pilots who haven't seen any action in like two decades.
TCSTigersClaw
Greek Special Forces B' Company "Naoussa" 2007-200
Well maybe you can do both in the movie.
The Convoy must be Importand so while the Escort is Completely destroyed my the veteran Kilrathis, a patrol group just picks the mayday signal from them, but they are few compared to the kilrathi forces so they communicate with their base , requesting for reinforsments.
Well now Im thinking that this is a stupid idea
But It has both situations
The Convoy must be Importand so while the Escort is Completely destroyed my the veteran Kilrathis, a patrol group just picks the mayday signal from them, but they are few compared to the kilrathi forces so they communicate with their base , requesting for reinforsments.
Well now Im thinking that this is a stupid idea
But It has both situations
Originally posted by CamW
Actually 2 of the Excals get toasted in the first 30 seconds of battle.
Anybody flying an Excalibur, who gets wacked in the first 30 secs of combat, surprise and rusty skills notwithstanding, shouldn't be flying Excaliburs to begin with.
I'm curious but wouldn't Hellcats be a better choice for the escort? I thought Excals were only for when things get serious (AKA war)?
I think someone must have forgotten to pass that memo on to just about every Confed Excal pilot I fought in WC4.
PS: Cam, while Excals are second line fighters in WC
, I would hardly call them obsolete. Stats wise, they would be somewhere between Tigersharks and Panthers.Best, Raptor
Originally posted by CamW
Excals by this time are kind of horribly outclassed by more advanced fighters (Vampires).
Besides, Excaliburs look cooler.
Problem is, the Excaliburs still horribly outclass anything we've seen from the cats.
I suppose one important question in all of this is how exactly are the cats going to initiate their attack?
I think either Hellcats would be a better choice, or maybe you should cut down how many Excals are around. With 6 of them, green pilot or not, you can take down 6 Kats.
Cutting their numbers down a bit, especially if some were blow away quickly for some reason, (Although you might want to give a good reason why when taking out a ship like that.) would really give those 2 Excal pilots a problem, and require assistance.
Cutting their numbers down a bit, especially if some were blow away quickly for some reason, (Although you might want to give a good reason why when taking out a ship like that.) would really give those 2 Excal pilots a problem, and require assistance.
Mekt-Hakkikt
Mpanty's bane
We shouldn't automatically assume that because we can take down an entire planet and fleet in an Excaliobur that automatically any pilot in an Excalibur can do at least moderate fighting. According to the VS a single Strakha once destroyed 4 Hellcats. I see no problem in having the Excaliburs defeated: If the Kilrathi have the element of surprise or are just the superior pilots, why not? We see lots of even more unbelievable dogfights in the novels.
Mekt-Hakkikt
Mpanty's bane
Huh? 
I don't know any particular place to get KS. I don't even own KS myself. You must have mixed something up, sorry.
mpanty: How dare you to say such incredible things?
I don't know any particular place to get KS. I don't even own KS myself. You must have mixed something up, sorry.
mpanty: How dare you to say such incredible things?
LOL!
Guys guys guys! It's a movie. Often in movies things happen out of the realm of "realism".
a) The first two Excals get blown up cuz they're ambushed. Read the script if you want details on this. That and I've mentioned it before. So technically they're fighting 4 Excals.
b) Considering your arguments are pretty well done, I might add in a single Strakha at the end of the movie when everyone thinks they've wiped out all of the Kilrathi. Heheh. Maybe not tho.
And from what I know, third generation Kilrathi fighters are not outclassed by third generation Confed fighters. Just because you as a pilot can wipe out an entire planet and the Kilrathi dreadnaught doesn't mean the Kilrathi have bad fighters or are bad pilots. Consider them like Russians and Confed is the Americans. Russians do not have worse technology, rather Russian aircraft on a lot of occasions are much better than American counterparts. Their approach may be LESS technological, but that doesn't mean they're outclassed.
A quote from the Victory Streak: "Having endured decades of revision, the fourth generation of the Dralthi medium fighter is comparable to the Thunderbolt."
And another: "The Vaktoth is a heavy Kilrathi fighter whose performance is slightly better than that of the Confederation Thunderbolt."
So in my interpretation as the director of my movie, the Kilrathi will have the superior advantage of surprise, coordination, and skill, up until the rescue team arrives. That's when things get a little fun. Or is supposed to anyway.
Guys guys guys! It's a movie. Often in movies things happen out of the realm of "realism".
a) The first two Excals get blown up cuz they're ambushed. Read the script if you want details on this. That and I've mentioned it before. So technically they're fighting 4 Excals.
b) Considering your arguments are pretty well done, I might add in a single Strakha at the end of the movie when everyone thinks they've wiped out all of the Kilrathi.
Heheh. Maybe not tho.And from what I know, third generation Kilrathi fighters are not outclassed by third generation Confed fighters. Just because you as a pilot can wipe out an entire planet and the Kilrathi dreadnaught doesn't mean the Kilrathi have bad fighters or are bad pilots. Consider them like Russians and Confed is the Americans. Russians do not have worse technology, rather Russian aircraft on a lot of occasions are much better than American counterparts. Their approach may be LESS technological, but that doesn't mean they're outclassed.
A quote from the Victory Streak: "Having endured decades of revision, the fourth generation of the Dralthi medium fighter is comparable to the Thunderbolt."
And another: "The Vaktoth is a heavy Kilrathi fighter whose performance is slightly better than that of the Confederation Thunderbolt."
So in my interpretation as the director of my movie, the Kilrathi will have the superior advantage of surprise, coordination, and skill, up until the rescue team arrives.
That's when things get a little fun. Or is supposed to anyway.
Eder
Mr. Standoff
I see no problem in having 4 Excaliburs being shot down by 6 Kilrathi (just make sure those first 2 Excals are ambushed convincingly 
). I mean, if the Kilrathi are experienced enough to attack the convoy from different sides, and organize their attack between the Pelicans (thus distracting the escorts) and the escorts (ambushing them with the lighter craft while they're fending off the ships which are attacking the Pelicans) they should have no problem against 4 pilots with little experience at escort duties who have just witnessed the death (they don't eject, do they? ejecting is very short on drama, if you ask me ) of two of their comrades... besides, the Pelican's turret placement is pretty ineffective, IMO.
--Eder
). I mean, if the Kilrathi are experienced enough to attack the convoy from different sides, and organize their attack between the Pelicans (thus distracting the escorts) and the escorts (ambushing them with the lighter craft while they're fending off the ships which are attacking the Pelicans) they should have no problem against 4 pilots with little experience at escort duties who have just witnessed the death (they don't eject, do they? ejecting is very short on drama, if you ask me ) of two of their comrades... besides, the Pelican's turret placement is pretty ineffective, IMO.--Eder
I can see the Kilrathi taking out the fighters, my only problem is in this suprise attack. Since I've yet to see your movie of it (and won't for a while), I'm finding it hard to believe that the convoy would be ambushed, unless it's near a jump point/asteroid field, etc. (Sorry, I've not gotten around to reading the script.)
I can see how the Excals could be taken out, I'm still trying to grasp how the ambush works. (Hiding in a gas giant's atmosphere, or something.) Assuming it's well thought out, the Excals could easily be bested.
I can see how the Excals could be taken out, I'm still trying to grasp how the ambush works. (Hiding in a gas giant's atmosphere, or something.) Assuming it's well thought out, the Excals could easily be bested.
