Never had them got shot down, myself. The only problem I ever had was the angle and the myriad projections sticking out from the ship. I think the main advantage of the HARMs was the quick lock time in relation to other missiles (iirc - I could be mistaken on that). It is true, though, that the turrets tended to die fairly quickly to concentrated gun fire. Sometimes I used the missiles, and sometimes I didn't.
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Read my post carefully Plebe. Especially my conclusion. And i also like to point out you never really stated why they are not used in real life. Maybe i didnt clear it up enough for you in the first place well let me explain. You know in Star Trek the Enterprise is a Battleship, so why is it still in use. The Enterprise is one of Two Sovereign Class Vessels and to add further the Enterprise is stronger than its sister and therefore was named the Flagship of the Federation. So when i said they should have a Battleship as a Flagship of the Confederation i ment wouldnt it make sense to make a battleship a Flagship of the whole fleet considering it can Destroy any ship in Current Existence.
Bandit LOAF
Long Live the Confederation!
Plebe?
Battleships existed in the Wing Commander universe before the Terran/Kilrathi war -- but they quickly became obsolete. The purpose behind a large battleship was to support huge plasma weapons, which were rendered of little use compred to smaller more effective anti cap-ship weapons which skip through shields.
Battleships existed in the Wing Commander universe before the Terran/Kilrathi war -- but they quickly became obsolete. The purpose behind a large battleship was to support huge plasma weapons, which were rendered of little use compred to smaller more effective anti cap-ship weapons which skip through shields.
OriginalPhoenix
Professor Emeritus
It's only powerful enough to destroy any other ship if it gets close enough. Carriers and their air wings negate that advantage.
Ask yourself... In the 20's and into the 30's the battleship was the queen of the seas, the object around which countries built their fleets. Why then, in WWII was the battleship -- with a few isolated exceptions -- regulated to AA defense of the carriers and menial shore bombardment? Ask yourself why the IJNS YAMATO, arguably the most powerful battleship ever built, never got remotely close to its objective at Okinawa.
To Phoenix:Good point but still that means that those battleships are tasked with Defending these lightly armed Carriers which would make them "usefull again" 
. Very good point Phoenix
To Ghost:You dont know much ouside of WC do you? And why should you, your Ghost
To Loaf:So Confed has decided to go back with the Big Plasma weapons on the Plunkett Class did you see this as a step down? Just want your opinion on the new Cruiser Class
Well im just saying One Battleship class that outclasses anything TC has for it to be a flag. Im not asking for a whole damn fleet of them.
. Very good point PhoenixTo Ghost:You dont know much ouside of WC do you? And why should you, your Ghost
To Loaf:So Confed has decided to go back with the Big Plasma weapons on the Plunkett Class did you see this as a step down? Just want your opinion on the new Cruiser Class
Well im just saying One Battleship class that outclasses anything TC has for it to be a flag. Im not asking for a whole damn fleet of them.
OriginalPhoenix
Professor Emeritus
Well, now, I never said they weren't "useful". I'm merely pointing out that 1) battleships haven't held the title of most vital naval ship for some time, and 2) they don't really do anything that other ships cannot do.Originally posted by Valor NR
To Phoenix:Good point but still that means that those battleships are tasked with Defending these lightly armed Carriers which would make them "usefull again"
That said, I love the power projection that battleships offer, as well as the shear weight of bombardment, and would personally love to see a couple of the IOWA-class back in active duty again.
Delta_Strife
Rear Admiral
The problem with battleships is they are very expensive to build and maintain. The have limited roles in todays military and it is not worth the money to build them.
Originally posted by Valor NR
To Phoenix:Good point but still that means that those battleships are tasked with Defending these lightly armed Carriers which would make them "usefull again"
If fighters and carriers have become the end-all/be-all of space combat, then it would make much more sense to use specially designed anti-fighter cruisers as the escorts for a carrier. Take a standard destroyer or cruiser (which is typically faster than a battleship), strip out the heavy weapons and fire control, and replace them with systems that are optomized for targeting and tracking a large number of small, high-speed ships. Slave the fire control systems to a single ship to better coordinate which ship is shooting at what.
If the fire control system is good enough, you may even be able to use the turrets on the escorts to pick off torpedoes targetted at other ships in the carrier group.
If a group of fighters approaches the carrier group at high speed, then the escorts will be able to interdict any that make it through the carrier groups own fighter screen. If a capital ship approaches the carrier group, then the fighters on board the carrier should have the speed necessary to sink the approaching capital ship before it can get within range.
The ONLY use that I can think of for something like a battleship is if a situation arises in which there is no approach battle to reach the enemy. A situation in which one side decides to perform a point blank defense of a jump point by dropping a battle station next to the point would be an example of this. A battleship would be able to jump in and immediately unleash on the battlestation. A carrier that did that might be cut to shreds before it could launch fighters.
Of course, since many fighters in WC can jump without the carrier, even that example doesn't exactly fit.