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    Canon? Official? Apocrypha?

    I think he means actors.
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    Need a little help here.

    This is from the Genesis game "Zero Wing," which also gave us "Someone set us up the bomb!", and "For great justice launch every ZIG!". But of course, we must all remember the most screwed up video game quote of all time: FIGHT, MEGAMAN! FOR EVERLASTING PEACE!
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    Suggestion...

    I beg to differ. Bad game translations are quite funny (the original quote was "All your base are belong to us" from the Genesis game "Zero Wing").
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    Kilrathi War.

    That wasn't my assumption. That was my *conclusion.* There's a difference. ;) Journals are interesting reading. They are very straightforward and blunt, sparing little of the reader's sensibilities in their quest for the truth.
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    Kilrathi War.

    Well, I have to warn you up front that although I take a strong interest in all science (indeed, in all forms of human endeavor), my areas of expertise are computer science and physics, and with the specialization of the sciences these days, I don't have room for more than a passing familiarity...
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    Kilrathi War.

    Again with the necessary reality checks... It appears that some people around here REALLY need to acquaint themselves with REAL scientific principles. In real science, you don't assume anything unless you ABSOLUTELY have to. Some of the marks of sentience are language skills and tool use...
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    Kilrathi War.

    I would have to see what the other variables in this experiment are, but a casual experiment like this has so many potential sources for outside contamination that any results that you can take from it are tentative at best.
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    Kilrathi War.

    Frankly, I trust the opinion of a professionally-reviewed scientific journal over the opinion of a single sci-fi fan. The journal is published by people who have made the advancement of human scientific knowledge their life's work. What makes you think that personal supposition is more...
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    Kilrathi War.

    AFAIK, they did. Occasionally, a dead dolphin will still show up, but by and large tuna netting operations are much safer for them than they once were. As for the Japanese still hunting whales, it should be pointed out that the Japanese have been eating whale for a LONG time and it's hard to...
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    Kilrathi War.

    Notice that because of international pressure, methods of collecting tuna that do not require the killing of dolphins and whales are now used.
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    Kilrathi War.

    Of course I'm saying polar bears, cougars, deer and antelope aren't sentient. Who has forwarded in a reputable scientific journal that they are?
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    Kilrathi War.

    If the Kilrathi had met the Mantu, they would have just been beaten down and embittered. Strangely, I think the most important thing about the Kilrathi War was its incredible length - they met an alien race that they expected to be just another prey species, and it turned out that humanity...
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    Kilrathi War.

    The "racial alignment" of the Kilrathi tends toward evil - their society is geared around an alien set of values which is absolutely abhorrent by human standards. A sensor sweep, or even a focused scan, is a VERY different action from an assault. Weapons in the WC universe are very clearly...
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    Kilrathi War.

    And what have we learned from this exercise, class? Well, we've learned three things: 1: That some people around here really need to check in with reality sometimes, 2: That no matter how clearly evil a side is portrayed in a fictional work, there are some people who will redact said...
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    Kilrathi War.

    Death and enslavement are NOT a good option. Kill or die appears to be the rule of the day when fighting the Kilrathi, no matter how much individual warriors wish it were otherwise. So? If things were different, they wouldn't be the same. Your point is? Confed is explicitly described as a...
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    Kilrathi War.

    When Bob Ballard took the Alvin down to look at the Lusitania's hulk, the hull plates at the point of impact were indeed smashed outward, but the debris and placement were consistent with an explosion caused by the torpedo's warhead igniting volatile, coal-dust-laden air in the ship's empty coal...
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    Kilrathi War.

    I completely agree. The pro-Cats seem to forget the vast number of times that we get a behind-the-scenes look at the Kilrathi decision making process. Confed propaganda regarding the Kilrathi is slightly exaggerated, but NOT a fabrication from whole cloth. The pro-Cats also seem to forget...
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    Kilrathi War.

    [/b] Because in context of the fictional universe of Wing Commander, it makes no sense. [/b] Anybody who's read all of the novels knows a great deal about the Kilrathi. Some aspects of their culture are indeed admirable. However, the culture overall extols violence and vile acts as virtue...
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    Kilrathi War.

    Since we haven't heard of them again, we can't assume anything except the fact that humanity fought and won a war against them. Maybe they left. Maybe the defeated remnants of the Yan encountered and were obliterated by the Kilrathi. Maybe the Yan were actually a renegade human state that was...
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