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Oh Wow I just checked my WC4 box and it has that exact typo on it. Thats interesting. I never noticed it until now :D Thanks for bringing that up

Oh for sure. But in any case one well placed torpedo hit on the flight deck or bridge is enough to do serious damage that would take months to repair. Even if the Concordia engaged a ship as small as a cruiser there is still a high element of risk involved that any senior officer would want to...

And that was largely a waste. You don't send a Carrier that takes years and proabably billions of credits to produce into dangerous combat to fight enemy capital ships no matter how well armed it is as about three torpedo hits is enough to destroy a large ship and kill thousands of crew. The...

Ah yes I forgot about the Jutland class. Apparently the model that is in WC standoff and Saga is a fan creation as someone mentioned above. I don't know who made the model but it really captures the confed carrier style very nicely

Ah I didn't know that. Its still a damn good model though. I love the appearance of that carrier class. It looks a lot newer and more advanced than some of the other shoebox designs. That said I don't mind the Concordia class carrier look. I know some people don't and there are many reasons...

Ah I see. That clears things up a bit. It still seems like theres a lot of holes in the 'official' information. To be honest the games never seemed to give us a lot of background info on ship classes etc. The Wing Commander Novels help a bit but also raise other questions. Fan work complicates...

Missed a couple :) 1) There was the Jutland attack carrier class 2) Some of the Cruisers from the WC2 era were reconfigured as carriers too I think.

yeah your best bet is to spend some time changing the keys. Now this is difficult because there are so many keys to use in freespace. So its best to work out what you will use (like toggle targets, bombers, decoys etc) and know where those are. Its kindo frustrating to do but if you play both...

Well regardling the total number of confed fleet carriers Victory Streak mentions; Armageddon, Kennedy, Lincoln. Liberty is also mentioned in WC4. Then theres the 4 carriers that fought at Sirius (Concordia, Leyte Gulf, Verdun, Moskva. Saratoga you said was at Earth (the WC encyclopedia says...

This is a good thread. You make an excellant point about the bad side of post war demilitarizations. The US navy and airforce kept up a lot of its strength in the 50s but most the army was really neglected. Nuclear weapons could be deployed by either sea or air so I think that would have been...

I think I'm gonna get nightmares from watching all those gorgeous confed fleet carriers moored in drydocks and shipyards being helplessly torpedoed by squadrons of Grikaths.

Nightmare is the difficulty I usually try to play at. Mission survivability is a bit of a problem for some of the longer missions though. I wonder if one way around that would be to have your carrier at the nav point your fighting at so you can land to refuel, repair and most importantly save...

Yeah please notch up the difficulty and number of ships for Episode 5 even more than ep 4. The epic battles in Standoff should be something worth remembering :)

By the way how many ships can you now fit into a nav point without having the engine crash? In the losing stream of mission 2 you face a Hakaga, 2 Snakiers, 1 Destroyer and 2 Frigates. Then there are nearly 30 confed fighters and at least as many kilrathi fighters. To be honest I was amazed...

Hey folks I'm just gonna point out something I found out by mistake in the Hakaga strike mission in Episode 4. I'm not sure if other people have found this but to make it almost impossible (if you like a real challenge) that in mission 1 you need to clear the first nav point and then eject or...

Some people on the CIC are probably familiar with the space turn based strategy series 'Master of Orion' from the 90s. The game basically is similiar to Civilization with several alien races competing for control of a galaxy. The game involves you balancing your resources between researching...

I can see where Quarto is coming from. Yes you 'cannot' use the excuse of following orders to violate human rights but look at the histroy of wars in the 20th century such as Vietnam. If it was an officers responsibility to commit treason for an unjust war then the entire US army, navy, airforce...

That he does :)

I got so caught out by that the first time round. My Sabre or Cougers rather was absolutely trashed by the time i was of the deck so you need to afterburn as fast as you can to get out. Even more funny is Reismann's response if you lose the Reims after Bradshaw's suicide run. I have to say...

Actually you guys are right - It is easier flying a Crossbow i got it after the 2nd attempt because I was too careless the first time :) . And the level I play on is Hardcore And yeah I agree with Toast. The reason why people are probably cruising through the Hakaga mission after a few...