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    In hindsight, the Wing Commander movie was a masterpiece.

    Anyone who played the Wing Commander series back in the day will tell you that much of the games' original draw can be found in their FMV sequences. Sure, they were cheap and the games' writing was about on par with Star Wars fan-fiction (with fewer Han-on-Chewie sex scenes), but that didn't...
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    Dead genres and the reason they died

    Cool, a new X-Com in the 60 would be great. In another forum (I should stop wasting my time with the internet, ugh) I've penned up another scenario for a new X-Com game, what do you think about it: http://www.xcomufo.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=242035114
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    The one thing where Wing Commander was far better than most popular Sci-Fi

    Minor holes? The fact that the aliens look like humans, sound like humans, speak like humans, behave like humans, have the same names like humans and have the same clothes like humans should just FREAK OUT everyone on Earth who has a double digit IQ. That's just too many coincidences and...
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    The one thing where Wing Commander was far better than most popular Sci-Fi

    UGH Here in Germany they aired the new "V" for the first time, God, it sucked bad. Hm, I have trashed the similiary themed "Earth: Final Conflict" (beginning from Season 2) pretty bad here, but I must cut it some some slack now. Final Conflict, first season, was a great show that was...
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    In hindsight, the Wing Commander movie was a masterpiece.

    Yeah, and that episode and storyline sucked. It was way worse than the Pilgrim stuff, because Bashir's "doctor abilities" weren't in any way special, at least Blair is known throughout the games as a very good pilot. Bashir wasn't any different than all the other ST medics. On the other hand...
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    In hindsight, the Wing Commander movie was a masterpiece.

    Whether it's genetics or faith isn't that important for the movie though. Being able to navigate through space by faith alone is actually cooler and is less of a cliche than the "superhuman through super genes" stuff. Sci fi is full of genetic supermen, but being actually able to have...
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    In hindsight, the Wing Commander movie was a masterpiece.

    Well, the difference is that Kirk is still just a human after all, and his father being a bigwig doesn't change the entire fictional universe. It's also known that Kirk is big war hero with lots of medals and stuff. Him being from a family of military big names isn't that surprising. It's a lot...
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    The one thing where Wing Commander was far better than most popular Sci-Fi

    Really? I don't know, if I had to decide what to cut, I would have had cut some bar banter scene and not such an important plot point. Maybe it's just the optimist in me who hopes that someone at Origin had common sense and realized that the overlay plot was less than perfect.
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    The one thing where Wing Commander was far better than most popular Sci-Fi

    I am very glad they didn't include the Hobbes explanation. Hearing it would have for sure worsened the game for me. It sure did to some extend after I've found it years later on the internet.
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    In hindsight, the Wing Commander movie was a masterpiece.

    Fighting against aliens who want to wipe humanity out bonds together. It's not much of an stretch that human factions would join forces in situations like these, and moving back to normal after the danger is gone. You know, the enemy of my enemy is my friend. No it does. If the...
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    In hindsight, the Wing Commander movie was a masterpiece.

    Being born in Iowa doesn't give you special powers. Nor is it in any way special or unique. Blair was just a darn good pilot in the games, that's all. (in the cannonical story, he isn't even that much of an über-pilot though. Doesn't he mess up the first mission in the novelization of WC3 and...
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    In hindsight, the Wing Commander movie was a masterpiece.

    Yeah, because (speaking strictly as a fan of the games here) it's a lot of stuff that just appeared out of thin air. To stay in the SF genre: It's as if a new Star Trek show would come out in which it's suddenly revelealed that Kirk is part Vulcan and would treat it as common knowledge...
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    In hindsight, the Wing Commander movie was a masterpiece.

    Hm, shouldn't the focus be on the Kilrathi? I mean it's not like the movie was a rousing success, something is wrong with. And the Pilgrims (or how they were portrayed, like being too much of a focus) are part of what's wrong.
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    In hindsight, the Wing Commander movie was a masterpiece.

    Well, I feel the price was too high to pay to have this plot point. The Pilgrims were very destructing to the movie and its intended audience because they came completely out of nowhere and had that annoying space magic vibe which was completely absent in the games. Blair's piloting skills...
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    In hindsight, the Wing Commander movie was a masterpiece.

    What was Chis Robert's motivation to add the Pilgrims in the first place? It seems that it was a lot of work to include them and to adjust the established WC story somehow with the Pilgrim stuff - why even bother? Just to have some space magic in the movie? My other guess is that Roberts...
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    The one thing where Wing Commander was far better than most popular Sci-Fi

    You've watched too many SF shows man (me too, by the way). The Cardassians aren't evil by North Korean standards either. Is Kim Jong-il an alien? You seem to imply that the standards of Hollywood SF writers are the universal standards of all mankind through all times. Quite naive...
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    The one thing where Wing Commander was far better than most popular Sci-Fi

    I haven't mentioned Babylon 5 for a reason. B5 was the big exception, with the very human looking Centauri opressing the much more alien looking Narn. Humans weren't so damn smart either. Actually here I noticed the other extreme - I've found it a bit odd how the Minbari were shown as total...
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    The one thing where Wing Commander was far better than most popular Sci-Fi

    Not all though. The "onscreen" Confed Ariel attack fails, the destruction of the Behemoth was a big one. OK, traitor plot, but still. The official version is that Hobbes was a plant by Thrakkath, that was quite a successful military intelligence operation. In the novelized "canon" story of...
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    The one thing where Wing Commander was far better than most popular Sci-Fi

    The military has more advanced tech than the rest of the population. It's also implied later in the series that the "evil corp" Aerotech (and probably in part the UN and the governments - don't forget, the makers of x-files were behind the show) knew about the aliens, calculated the odds and...
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