comments to "Privateer - das Erwachen"

Deacan · 04-11-2006, 11:51

Okay... since the storythread gets larger and langer and bigger and bigger and perhaps some people just want to read the story and don't want to talk inside that thread about the story... here is the place to do so.
Questions, throughts, ideas for other stories (a bit of the second book will be postet here soon...), comments and and and...

And for the english speaking people: here you can ask the others (how speak german & english better than I do) what the story is about... or so.

I hope that my translator Dana is getting well soon...

Thanks and happy talking.

Deacan

Deacan · 04-12-2006, 13:11

As you've seen or better read, inside my story I focused more on the people than huge space battles... but I hope this is allright.

The second novel... well: one of the "persons" from novel one is found dead... and the hunt for the truth beginns.

Deacan

PS: I've played around with the titel: "Privateer: das Erwachen" Book II: "Dunkle Stille"...

|BoH_Havoc| · 04-25-2006, 03:39

dude, the story is getting better and better with every new part you release

I can't thank you enough for sharing this great novel with the community

deacan 4 teh_win

Deacan · 04-25-2006, 05:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by |BoH_Havoc|

dude, the story is getting better and better with every new part you release

I can't thank you enough for sharing this great novel with the community

deacan 4 teh_win

Glad to see you're enjoy this. I will post at least 1/3 of the entire novel here - perhaps more.
The major problem is that I found several parts of my novel inside of a differend board and with a differend author! ...

...and I don't give my permission!

They erased it by my request... but this is of corse a sad thing.

But the readers of this forum will surely see (and read) the entire novel.

Don · 04-25-2006, 05:20

Quote:

Glad to see you're enjoy this. I will post at least 1/3 of the entire novel here - perhaps more.
The major problem is that I found several parts of my novel inside of a differend board and with a differend author! ... ...and I don't give my permission!

Terrible. But at least you showed those scuzzy bastards you're no ordinary author to mess with.

Question:

Since you actually have your story as a neat and published book, i was wondering if you would ever scan the entire book and upload it to the wcnews team as PDF (Adobe) document. Just a thought that you MIGHT pass onto?

Deacan · 04-25-2006, 05:28

@ Don: this could be a way, but I'm still looking for a way for a "normal" release.

My printshop is also on the search, too. So - maybe...

Deacan

Deacan · 05-13-2006, 11:29

Well... todays part 47 includes also the 1/3 of the entire novel... I still hope you enjoy this that way...

We could make a little game: what do you think will happen on the next pages?

Next part: tomorrow.

Deacan

Deacan · 05-13-2006, 18:06

Help wanted!

Since my translator still don't have the time to deal with my novel, I just asking you (!) for a helping hand...

If you think your english skills are quite good enough to translate my novel for the english speaking people here - please give me a sign! Or even better - simply start to translate... just use the parts I've post inside the german thread.

But please - do not claim them as your own...

Deacan

Jacob Hudson · 05-16-2006, 09:55

Moin...

oh no... Manley und Fahnenflucht?

Na gut hier was zum aufmuntern...

New Banner release:

________

...

Ser Hudson

Deacan · 05-16-2006, 10:54

...incredible! My dear Hudson, that's great work!

Manley haven't the needed time for the translation... and she also got some serious problems at work. So - I don't feel well if I try to "force" her to work on this novel.

My dear - I need to say this: Buch I is: "das Erwachen" - Sturm
Buch II: "das Erwachen" - Stille

Okay? For the english people here: the novel will be printed with the titel: "the Awakening" - book I - Storm and the second one: "the Awakening" - book II - Silence... and to tell the truth: everything good comes as trilogy.

Deacan

criticalmass · 05-18-2006, 11:17

Deacan,
sorry to hear about your translator. Just for the fun of it, I've taken the liberty to translate the next half chapter (part 2) after the one already issued. Let's see what the other folks think of it, then we can see how to progress from there.
About myself: I'm a mixture of German and American, having lived, loved, studied, and worked in both countries and claim some control of both languages. My current occupation is technical consulting, which has its ups and downs, so there might be room enough to translate a chapter per week - but there are no safe guesses.
I'll send the chapter sample to you via PM, so that you can take a look at it and decide if that's what you're looking for.
Best regards, Jon

Das ganze nochmal auf Deutsch:

Deacan, tut mir wirklich leid mit Deiner Übersetzerin. Ich habe spaßeshalber mir mal die Freiheit genommen, das nächste halbe Kapitel (Part 2) nach dem letzen veröffentlichten selbst zu übersetzen. Es würde mich interssierenwas die anderen Jungs darüber denken und wie man das gnaze in Zukunft weiterlaufen lassen kann.
Über mich: Ich bin eine Mischung aus Deutschem und Amerikaner, und habe in beiden Ländern gelebt, geliebt, studiert und gearbeitet, und schreibe mir daher eine gewisse Beherrschung der beiden Sprachen zu. Momentan arbeite ich in der Technologieberatung, mit mal hoher, mal niedriger Arbeitsbelastung. Aber für ein Kapitel pro Woche sollte Zeit genug da sein - wobei es da auch keine Garantien gibt.
Ich werde Dir das Probekapitel zur Ansicht per PM zuschicken, dann kannst Du entscheiden ob Du es gebrauchen kannst.
Beste Grüße, Jon

Deacan · 05-18-2006, 13:39

My dear criticalmass (hey - that's quite a nic...) - yes! And: thanks so much right now!

I put your work in the english thread and let the readers to decide. From what I read so far, it's more than great.

Deacan

So dear friends - check out the thread and tell us what you think.

Manley · 05-22-2006, 10:59

took me quite a while to get here... seems there's another volunteer for translating. well, i've been somewhat busy those last few weeks but from next week on, there shouldn't be a problem concerning the progress of the translation any more...

anyway, let me know what you decide...

Jacob Hudson · 05-22-2006, 12:47

ohh Manley...

schön dich zu lesen

Lass dich mal wieder bei uns blicken... miss you very doll

Hab mich mal wieder hingesetzt, und das ist dabei herraus gekommen:

Hoffe es gefällt euch...

Gruß

Dennis / Jacob "Nox" Hudson

Don · 05-22-2006, 12:48

WOW...i really like the banner.
Seems to me almost like a box cover art for a new Privateer game (or Movie), a sequel of course to the Darkening.

To Deacon:
How far are you from finishing the complete English version.

Deacan · 05-22-2006, 13:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by Don

To Deacon:
How far are you from finishing the complete English version.

I'm the wrong person to ask - I've only give this work in the hands of - at least 2 - persons: first to Dana Manley, second to criticalmass.

Both have done the first pages of the novel, you can see the results inside the "soon - english version of Das Erwachen" - Thread.

Deacan

criticalmass · 05-23-2006, 02:29

@Dana:
I hope I haven't pushed you out from something you'd like to continue. I have no problems with stepping back and letting you go on, as you're closer to Deacan and his story anyway (I guess), but I'd be happy to offer my humble services in case there's need for translating, proofreading, or general banter.
I'll PM you so we can have the discussion offline.
Best regards, Jon

Jacob Hudson · 05-28-2006, 14:45

Hier was neues:

criticalmass · 05-29-2006, 01:43

Looking neat! Will that be on a website some day?

[Sieht klasse aus! Wird das irgendwann mal ne Webseite?]

Deacan · 05-29-2006, 04:18

Yes - you got it, dear criticalmass...

Ser Hudson is working on a internetsite for me right now - there will be some chapters from both novels, a "Privateers diary", drawings from several vessels from the game/book, photos from the "cast"... etc.

Good idea, isn't it?

Deacan

PS: hey Jon - still no sign from manley?

criticalmass · 05-29-2006, 06:20

That sounds promising..

Concerning Ms. Manley: Unfortunately we haven't gotten in touch yet. I'll forward the PM I sent her to her email address.

Deacan · 05-29-2006, 08:55

Hm... sounds like I need to do a little phonecall... well, it's quite funny: just some time ago Dana and I lived just 20 min away from each other...

But now she travels between my town and hannover...

Deacan

Btw... the banner would make a great shirt...

criticalmass · 06-04-2006, 02:04

I have gotten word from Manley, we'll try to coordinate translations with her at the helm and me acting as some kind of "technical editor", or all-round second pair of eyes. Let's see if that works out.
We both agree that having two translators doing different parts of the same text ruins the style, but editing and getting into pace might slow us down at the beginning. So guys, have patience (or learn German - hard, but worthwhile..).

Deacan · 06-30-2006, 03:43

Perhaps you're find this useful:

This short text is printed on the backside of the new version:

Book I (Sturm)

In einer fernen Zukunft kämpft ein Teil der Spezies Mensch noch immer gegen die eigene Art. Mitten im Chaos sucht ein Söldner, ein Privateer, verzweifelt nach Antworten.
Er wurde betrogen, belogen und hintergangen. Auf seinen Kopf ist eine Prämie ausgesetzt.
Seine Freunde sind jetzt seine Feinde. Und alles nur, weil er eine Frage gestellt hatte.
Doch die Antwort kosten vor allem eines: Blut.

Manchmal muss man sich an das Böse wenden, um etwas gutes zu tun...
Ein Sturm zieht auf.

...and Book II (Stille)

In einer fernen Zukunft kämpft ein Teil der Spezies Mensch noch immer gegen die eigene Art. Vieles hat sich verändert, seit dem der Sturm durch das System tobte. Ein Söldner, ein Privateer, der nach langer Suche auf seine Fragen die Antworten nur dadurch erhielt, indem er die Fronten wechselte, sieht sich jetzt einer neuen Bedrohung gegenüber.
Eine alte Gemeinschaft tritt wieder ans Tageslicht und schlägt unerbittlich zu.

Wer ist ein Freund, wer ist ein Feind?
In der Stille wächst das neue Unheil heran.

...................................

Deacan
-still hard working for a simple goal-

PS: it's sucks when nearly anything stands still and you are forced to wait for answers from several office... all I can do now is simply keep on writing

criticalmass · 06-30-2006, 12:34

This warrants attention of you guys out there - so let's translate...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deacan

Perhaps you're find this useful:

This short text is printed on the backside of the new version:

Book I (Storm)

In a distant future, parts of the human species still fight each other. In the midst of turmoil, a mercenary, a privateer, is desperately seeking for answers.
He was betrayed, double-crossed, and cheated. There's mones on his head.
Former friends now prove to be enemies. And all that because of one question.
But the currency to pay for the answer is mostly one thing: Blood.
Manchmal muss man sich an das Böse wenden, um etwas gutes zu tun...
Ein Sturm zieht auf.

...and Book II (Silence)

In a distant future, parts of the human species still fight each other. Since the storm raged in the system, much has changed. A mercenary, a privateer, who needed to change sides to get the answers he was looking for now faces a new adversary.
Something old awakes in the community, lashing out without mercy.
Who is now friend, who enemy?
In silence, new evil is growing.

...................................

Deacan
-still hard working for a simple goal-

PS: it's sucks when nearly anything stands still and you are forced to wait for answers from several office... all I can do now is simply keep on writing

I'm not really content with this translation, but I won't polish it more - for matters of discussion I think it gets the point across.

Deacan · 06-30-2006, 14:13

@ criticalmass: once again - thanks!

Btw: manchmal = sometimes... or did you simply forget this one line... *smile*

Deacan

criticalmass · 07-01-2006, 00:28

Ooops, jumped clear over that line. But yesterday wasn't the best day anyway.

Okay, missing sentence from the back covers:

Quote:

Sometimes you need to shake hands with evil to do good.
A storm is rising.

Since we're at it, this sentence shows the difficulties of translating: The literal meaning would have been "you need to turn to evil to achieve good", which works in a way, but sounds awkward in another.
In a story, you can skirt around those issues a bit, use different metaphors, or structure sentences in a slightly different way, but cover blurbs are extremely condensed and have multiple layers of meaning - that's why I'm not really happy with the text.

Now to something completely different:
You talk about waiting to get word from offices. Is that about your future publication plans, or just something unrelated that eats up your time?

04-11-2006, 11:51	#1
Deacan Captain Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Germany Posts: 467	comments to "Privateer - das Erwachen" Okay... since the storythread gets larger and langer and bigger and bigger and perhaps some people just want to read the story and don't want to talk inside that thread about the story... here is the place to do so. Questions, throughts, ideas for other stories (a bit of the second book will be postet here soon...), comments and and and... And for the english speaking people: here you can ask the others (how speak german & english better than I do) what the story is about... or so. I hope that my translator Dana is getting well soon... Thanks and happy talking. Deacan __________________ "...I love my Duress..." ........................................ ... Ser Deacan Tron ID - 7909D Privateer, Crius

04-12-2006, 13:11	#2
Deacan Captain Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Germany Posts: 467	As you've seen or better read, inside my story I focused more on the people than huge space battles... but I hope this is allright. The second novel... well: one of the "persons" from novel one is found dead... and the hunt for the truth beginns. Deacan PS: I've played around with the titel: "Privateer: das Erwachen" Book II: "Dunkle Stille"... __________________ "...I love my Duress..." ........................................ ... Ser Deacan Tron ID - 7909D Privateer, Crius

04-25-2006, 05:28	#6
Deacan Captain Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Germany Posts: 467	@ Don: this could be a way, but I'm still looking for a way for a "normal" release. My printshop is also on the search, too. So - maybe... Deacan __________________ "...I love my Duress..." ........................................ ... Ser Deacan Tron ID - 7909D Privateer, Crius

05-13-2006, 11:29	#7
Deacan Captain Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Germany Posts: 467	Well... todays part 47 includes also the 1/3 of the entire novel... I still hope you enjoy this that way... We could make a little game: what do you think will happen on the next pages? Next part: tomorrow. Deacan __________________ "...I love my Duress..." ........................................ ... Ser Deacan Tron ID - 7909D Privateer, Crius

05-13-2006, 18:06	#8
Deacan Captain Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Germany Posts: 467	Help wanted! Since my translator still don't have the time to deal with my novel, I just asking you (!) for a helping hand... If you think your english skills are quite good enough to translate my novel for the english speaking people here - please give me a sign! Or even better - simply start to translate... just use the parts I've post inside the german thread. But please - do not claim them as your own... Deacan __________________ "...I love my Duress..." ........................................ ... Ser Deacan Tron ID - 7909D Privateer, Crius

04-25-2006, 03:39	#3
\|BoH_Havoc\| Cadet Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 24	dude, the story is getting better and better with every new part you release I can't thank you enough for sharing this great novel with the community deacan 4 teh_win

05-16-2006, 09:55	#9
Jacob Hudson Cadet Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Germany Posts: 72	Moin... oh no... Manley und Fahnenflucht? Na gut hier was zum aufmuntern... New Banner release: ________ ... Ser Hudson

05-16-2006, 10:54	#10
Deacan Captain Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Germany Posts: 467	...incredible! My dear Hudson, that's great work! Manley haven't the needed time for the translation... and she also got some serious problems at work. So - I don't feel well if I try to "force" her to work on this novel. My dear - I need to say this: Buch I is: "das Erwachen" - Sturm Buch II: "das Erwachen" - Stille Okay? For the english people here: the novel will be printed with the titel: "the Awakening" - book I - Storm and the second one: "the Awakening" - book II - Silence... and to tell the truth: everything good comes as trilogy. Deacan __________________ "...I love my Duress..." ........................................ ... Ser Deacan Tron ID - 7909D Privateer, Crius

05-18-2006, 11:17	#11
criticalmass Lieutenant Colonel Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Travelling Posts: 926	Deacan, sorry to hear about your translator. Just for the fun of it, I've taken the liberty to translate the next half chapter (part 2) after the one already issued. Let's see what the other folks think of it, then we can see how to progress from there. About myself: I'm a mixture of German and American, having lived, loved, studied, and worked in both countries and claim some control of both languages. My current occupation is technical consulting, which has its ups and downs, so there might be room enough to translate a chapter per week - but there are no safe guesses. I'll send the chapter sample to you via PM, so that you can take a look at it and decide if that's what you're looking for. Best regards, Jon Das ganze nochmal auf Deutsch: Deacan, tut mir wirklich leid mit Deiner Übersetzerin. Ich habe spaßeshalber mir mal die Freiheit genommen, das nächste halbe Kapitel (Part 2) nach dem letzen veröffentlichten selbst zu übersetzen. Es würde mich interssierenwas die anderen Jungs darüber denken und wie man das gnaze in Zukunft weiterlaufen lassen kann. Über mich: Ich bin eine Mischung aus Deutschem und Amerikaner, und habe in beiden Ländern gelebt, geliebt, studiert und gearbeitet, und schreibe mir daher eine gewisse Beherrschung der beiden Sprachen zu. Momentan arbeite ich in der Technologieberatung, mit mal hoher, mal niedriger Arbeitsbelastung. Aber für ein Kapitel pro Woche sollte Zeit genug da sein - wobei es da auch keine Garantien gibt. Ich werde Dir das Probekapitel zur Ansicht per PM zuschicken, dann kannst Du entscheiden ob Du es gebrauchen kannst. Beste Grüße, Jon __________________ "Happy the man, and happy he alone / who in all honesty can call today his own He who has life and strength enough to say / Tomorrow do thy worst, for I have lived today." John Dryden, in the version by Neil Hannon

05-18-2006, 13:39	#12
Deacan Captain Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Germany Posts: 467	My dear criticalmass (hey - that's quite a nic...) - yes! And: thanks so much right now! I put your work in the english thread and let the readers to decide. From what I read so far, it's more than great. Deacan So dear friends - check out the thread and tell us what you think. __________________ "...I love my Duress..." ........................................ ... Ser Deacan Tron ID - 7909D Privateer, Crius

05-22-2006, 10:59	#13
Manley Cadet Join Date: May 2006 Location: hanover, germany Posts: 2	took me quite a while to get here... seems there's another volunteer for translating. well, i've been somewhat busy those last few weeks but from next week on, there shouldn't be a problem concerning the progress of the translation any more... anyway, let me know what you decide... __________________ any plates with food left? gimme!

05-22-2006, 12:47	#14
Jacob Hudson Cadet Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Germany Posts: 72	ohh Manley... schön dich zu lesen Lass dich mal wieder bei uns blicken... miss you very doll Hab mich mal wieder hingesetzt, und das ist dabei herraus gekommen: Hoffe es gefällt euch... Gruß Dennis / Jacob "Nox" Hudson

05-22-2006, 12:48	#15
Don 1st Lieutenant Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: UK Posts: 235	WOW...i really like the banner. Seems to me almost like a box cover art for a new Privateer game (or Movie), a sequel of course to the Darkening. To Deacon: How far are you from finishing the complete English version. __________________ "Whereas the passion, lies a degree of lunacy" SJ, 2006

05-23-2006, 02:29	#17
criticalmass Lieutenant Colonel Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Travelling Posts: 926	@Dana: I hope I haven't pushed you out from something you'd like to continue. I have no problems with stepping back and letting you go on, as you're closer to Deacan and his story anyway (I guess), but I'd be happy to offer my humble services in case there's need for translating, proofreading, or general banter. I'll PM you so we can have the discussion offline. Best regards, Jon __________________ "Happy the man, and happy he alone / who in all honesty can call today his own He who has life and strength enough to say / Tomorrow do thy worst, for I have lived today." John Dryden, in the version by Neil Hannon

05-28-2006, 14:45	#18
Jacob Hudson Cadet Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Germany Posts: 72	Hier was neues:

05-29-2006, 01:43	#19
criticalmass Lieutenant Colonel Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Travelling Posts: 926	Looking neat! Will that be on a website some day? [Sieht klasse aus! Wird das irgendwann mal ne Webseite?] __________________ "Happy the man, and happy he alone / who in all honesty can call today his own He who has life and strength enough to say / Tomorrow do thy worst, for I have lived today." John Dryden, in the version by Neil Hannon

05-29-2006, 04:18	#20
Deacan Captain Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Germany Posts: 467	Yes - you got it, dear criticalmass... Ser Hudson is working on a internetsite for me right now - there will be some chapters from both novels, a "Privateers diary", drawings from several vessels from the game/book, photos from the "cast"... etc. Good idea, isn't it? Deacan PS: hey Jon - still no sign from manley? __________________ "...I love my Duress..." ........................................ ... Ser Deacan Tron ID - 7909D Privateer, Crius

05-29-2006, 06:20	#21
criticalmass Lieutenant Colonel Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Travelling Posts: 926	That sounds promising.. Concerning Ms. Manley: Unfortunately we haven't gotten in touch yet. I'll forward the PM I sent her to her email address. __________________ "Happy the man, and happy he alone / who in all honesty can call today his own He who has life and strength enough to say / Tomorrow do thy worst, for I have lived today." John Dryden, in the version by Neil Hannon

05-29-2006, 08:55	#22
Deacan Captain Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Germany Posts: 467	Hm... sounds like I need to do a little phonecall... well, it's quite funny: just some time ago Dana and I lived just 20 min away from each other... But now she travels between my town and hannover... Deacan Btw... the banner would make a great shirt... __________________ "...I love my Duress..." ........................................ ... Ser Deacan Tron ID - 7909D Privateer, Crius

06-04-2006, 02:04	#23
criticalmass Lieutenant Colonel Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Travelling Posts: 926	I have gotten word from Manley, we'll try to coordinate translations with her at the helm and me acting as some kind of "technical editor", or all-round second pair of eyes. Let's see if that works out. We both agree that having two translators doing different parts of the same text ruins the style, but editing and getting into pace might slow us down at the beginning. So guys, have patience (or learn German - hard, but worthwhile..). __________________ "Happy the man, and happy he alone / who in all honesty can call today his own He who has life and strength enough to say / Tomorrow do thy worst, for I have lived today." John Dryden, in the version by Neil Hannon

06-30-2006, 03:43	#24
Deacan Captain Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Germany Posts: 467	Perhaps you're find this useful: This short text is printed on the backside of the new version: Book I (Sturm) In einer fernen Zukunft kämpft ein Teil der Spezies Mensch noch immer gegen die eigene Art. Mitten im Chaos sucht ein Söldner, ein Privateer, verzweifelt nach Antworten. Er wurde betrogen, belogen und hintergangen. Auf seinen Kopf ist eine Prämie ausgesetzt. Seine Freunde sind jetzt seine Feinde. Und alles nur, weil er eine Frage gestellt hatte. Doch die Antwort kosten vor allem eines: Blut. Manchmal muss man sich an das Böse wenden, um etwas gutes zu tun... Ein Sturm zieht auf. ...and Book II (Stille) In einer fernen Zukunft kämpft ein Teil der Spezies Mensch noch immer gegen die eigene Art. Vieles hat sich verändert, seit dem der Sturm durch das System tobte. Ein Söldner, ein Privateer, der nach langer Suche auf seine Fragen die Antworten nur dadurch erhielt, indem er die Fronten wechselte, sieht sich jetzt einer neuen Bedrohung gegenüber. Eine alte Gemeinschaft tritt wieder ans Tageslicht und schlägt unerbittlich zu. Wer ist ein Freund, wer ist ein Feind? In der Stille wächst das neue Unheil heran. ................................... Deacan -still hard working for a simple goal- PS: it's sucks when nearly anything stands still and you are forced to wait for answers from several office... all I can do now is simply keep on writing __________________ "...I love my Duress..." ........................................ ... Ser Deacan Tron ID - 7909D Privateer, Crius

06-30-2006, 14:13	#26
Deacan Captain Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Germany Posts: 467	@ criticalmass: once again - thanks! Btw: manchmal = sometimes... or did you simply forget this one line... smile Deacan __________________ "...I love my Duress..." ........................................ ... Ser Deacan Tron ID - 7909D Privateer, Crius