New cockpits!

Eder · 08-13-2007, 11:19

I came up with a couple of new cockpits last week and imported them into the engine today. We're now close to having a unique cockpit for each flyable ship, so that's probably what I'll end up doing (but probably not in time to get them all before Ep 4... there's 4 or 5 to go). Anyway, I'll just update this thread when there's a new one.

Here they are, in some particularly uninspired screenshots from the Sim, because I'm too lazy to mess with any Ep 4 missions to make them use these ships.

Suggestions for the Talon's cockpit are welcome! Did SWC have any cool looking ones? We could use more SWC references, and I think the Hornet there looked kinda like the Talon around the cockpit area, but I've never seen an interior view of it.

Vinman · 08-13-2007, 11:52

That is sooo cool! Will they replace the stock ones in the earlier release?

Eder · 08-13-2007, 11:54

Yeah, when Ep 4 comes out we'll update everything so that the Hornet and Arrow no longer re-use other ships' cockpits in the simulator.

Natreg · 08-13-2007, 12:40

well, I'm playing SWC lately and the cockpits are good in my opinion, but not sure if they would look good for other ships...

Every ship in SWC seems kinda weird looking if you compare them with the old WC1 ones.

I think there was a Talon cockpit in privateer, isn't it? or maybe I'm wrong....

Anyway, if you want I can take some screenshots of SWC.

Quarto · 08-13-2007, 12:55

Well, the thing about SWC is that its ships were re-used in a lot of other projects, including Priv and Armada. And, on top of that, its ships reused a lot of parts between each other. So, the SWC Hornet has more or less the same cockpit shape as the Talon (SWC Gratha) - that's why SWC Hornet interior shots would be really useful.

(no Talon cockpit in Privateer, I'm afraid... the Talon wasn't flyable there)

Mekt-Hakkikt · 08-13-2007, 13:25

The cockpits are most beautiful, especially the Hornet cockpit.

In the holovid section of the site is a video about SWC first mission, you get plenty of cockpit views of the Hornet there. Though I suppose the quality is maybe not high enough to make out all details.
Here

Vinman · 08-13-2007, 13:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by Natreg

well, I'm playing SWC lately and the cockpits are good in my opinion, but not sure if they would look good for other ships...

Every ship in SWC seems kinda weird looking if you compare them with the old WC1 ones.

I think there was a Talon cockpit in privateer, isn't it? or maybe I'm wrong....

Anyway, if you want I can take some screenshots of SWC.

There isn't a Talon cockpit in Privateer, unless there is some unused file hidden in the game.

Personally, I think a weird-looking cockpit would fit a Talon just fine, as none of the Privateer cockpits looked like standard Confed fighter cockpits.

Dundradal · 08-13-2007, 18:03

Gorgeous as always Eder! Although you should be less lazy, I'd love to see some of those Ep4 shots

Natreg · 08-14-2007, 00:54

Hornet cockpit:

Scimitar cockpit:

If I can finish the mission of saving that transport from Bhurack I'll post the raptor one

Quarto · 08-14-2007, 01:55

Thanks!

Heh, they didn't try very hard to make the cockpits match the ship exteriors, did they?

Natreg · 08-14-2007, 02:08

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Originally Posted by Quarto

Thanks!

Heh, they didn't try very hard to make the cockpits match the ship exteriors, did they?

doesn't seem they did heh.

I prefer the old designs myself. The swc ones are a bit ugly....

anyway I got the other 2 cockpits:

The raptor:

and the Rapier:

Hope this helps

Kavok · 08-14-2007, 03:41

Sir,

The Hornet is at last restored her lasers. I salute you!

Vinman · 08-14-2007, 11:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by Natreg

Hornet cockpit:
Scimitar cockpit:

That's pretty much exactly how I imagined the Talon's cockpit would look (except most Talon owners wouldn't have sprung for the leather interior)

Eder · 08-14-2007, 15:21

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Originally Posted by Natreg

Hope this helps

It does, thanks a lot for those! (Though, wow, they really don't match the exteriors at all. Maybe the Scim's cockpit would look more Talon-ish than the Hornet's...)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kavok

The Hornet is at last restored her lasers. I salute you!

Sorry to disappoint, but that's actually a bug with the VDU, the guns are still neutrons and fixing this VDU is on our to-do list.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vinman

That's pretty much exactly how I imagined the Talon's cockpit would look (except most Talon owners wouldn't have sprung for the leather interior)

Yeah, I'm thinking of using the SWC Scimitar and maybe an Armada ship as a basis for this....

Eder · 08-16-2007, 07:25

Here is the Broadsword... I tried to stay true to the original cockpit while making it feel big and roomy compared to Standoff's other cockpits.

gevatter Lars · 08-16-2007, 07:57

The new cockpits are well done. The Arrow seams a bit empty without the displays showing something but thats ok.
Mostly I like the Broadswords cockpit. It looks big, fitting to a bomber of its size.

Dundradal · 08-16-2007, 08:11

Simply gorgeous Eder, as always. It definitely has a roomy feel about it. Good work.

Eder · 08-16-2007, 09:34

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Originally Posted by gevatter Lars

The new cockpits are well done. The Arrow seams a bit empty without the displays showing something but thats ok.

Quarto was just telling me about that yesterday... seems I forgot to add the displays. I usually base the texture on a screenshot of the original game, but this time I extracted a bitmap directly from Armada's data files instead (and the displays are stored separately).

I'll probably get around to fixing it but I think I should finish the other meshes first.

Vinman · 08-16-2007, 14:28

Do they move around as you maneuver or are they stationary?

Eder · 08-16-2007, 14:31

They move a bit... here's a Gladius breaking right:

http://standoff.solsector.net/shots/shot201.png

Vinman · 08-16-2007, 14:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eder

They move a bit... here's a Gladius breaking right:

http://standoff.solsector.net/shots/shot201.png

That's so cool!

Looks like that gladius has seen better days!

Mekt-Hakkikt · 08-16-2007, 14:54

The Broadsword's cockpit is as beautiful as the Hornet's cockpit. Looks like I have a weakness for green cockpits...

Bob McDob · 08-16-2007, 17:44

Yeah, the Broadsword cockpit view is quite remarkable; it gives you a sense a place that none of the others really do. Combined with the new backgrounds it almost looks like a completely different game.

Cardinal · 08-16-2007, 19:28

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Originally Posted by Bob McDob

Yeah, the Broadsword cockpit view is quite remarkable; it gives you a sense a place that none of the others really do. Combined with the new backgrounds it almost looks like a completely different game.

Yes, the new cockpits and starfields seem to add a level of realism to the game.

One half of me wants to ask if the turrets are going to get similar treatment. The other half remembers how limited the field of view was in those things. In WC2, it almost made one claustrophobic...

Quarto · 08-16-2007, 22:42

I don't think we have the capability to add a cockpit mesh to the turrets.

Ricochet · 08-18-2007, 07:24

Still, great work guys...

frostytheplebe · 08-21-2007, 23:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vinman

That's pretty much exactly how I imagined the Talon's cockpit would look (except most Talon owners wouldn't have sprung for the leather interior)

I disagree. I think the Rapier cockpit works better. Also, the rapier one shows the least amount of the rediculous flight suits they wore in SWC.

Also, are you guys planning anything for the Wraith? Academy or Armada? Although there isn't much difference, the Armada one does look cooler.

08-13-2007, 11:19	#1
Eder Mr. Standoff Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Sao Paulo, Brazil Posts: 3,214	New cockpits! I came up with a couple of new cockpits last week and imported them into the engine today. We're now close to having a unique cockpit for each flyable ship, so that's probably what I'll end up doing (but probably not in time to get them all before Ep 4... there's 4 or 5 to go). Anyway, I'll just update this thread when there's a new one. Here they are, in some particularly uninspired screenshots from the Sim, because I'm too lazy to mess with any Ep 4 missions to make them use these ships. Suggestions for the Talon's cockpit are welcome! Did SWC have any cool looking ones? We could use more SWC references, and I think the Hornet there looked kinda like the Talon around the cockpit area, but I've never seen an interior view of it. __________________ Hi, I'm Ed. You may remember me from such great fan projects as 'Standoff' and 'Unknown Enemy'...

08-13-2007, 11:54	#3
Eder Mr. Standoff Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Sao Paulo, Brazil Posts: 3,214	Yeah, when Ep 4 comes out we'll update everything so that the Hornet and Arrow no longer re-use other ships' cockpits in the simulator. __________________ Hi, I'm Ed. You may remember me from such great fan projects as 'Standoff' and 'Unknown Enemy'...

08-13-2007, 13:25	#6
Mekt-Hakkikt Mpanty's bane Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Wiesbaden, Germany Posts: 4,486	The cockpits are most beautiful, especially the Hornet cockpit. In the holovid section of the site is a video about SWC first mission, you get plenty of cockpit views of the Hornet there. Though I suppose the quality is maybe not high enough to make out all details. Here __________________ "Khasra! I have heard enough of Khasra!" For the Glory of Sivar!

08-13-2007, 18:03	#8
Dundradal Rampant since 1994 Join Date: Jan 2000 Location: Installation 00 Posts: 3,568	Gorgeous as always Eder! Although you should be less lazy, I'd love to see some of those Ep4 shots __________________ "To you, we are deeply grateful, and release what little hold we might, as Durandal, have had on your soul. Go." - Final Terminal Message Marathon Infinity

08-16-2007, 07:25	#15
Eder Mr. Standoff Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Sao Paulo, Brazil Posts: 3,214	Here is the Broadsword... I tried to stay true to the original cockpit while making it feel big and roomy compared to Standoff's other cockpits. __________________ Hi, I'm Ed. You may remember me from such great fan projects as 'Standoff' and 'Unknown Enemy'...

08-13-2007, 11:52	#2
Vinman Lieutenant Colonel Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Maryland Posts: 851	That is sooo cool! Will they replace the stock ones in the earlier release?

08-13-2007, 12:40	#4
Natreg Cadet Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 12	well, I'm playing SWC lately and the cockpits are good in my opinion, but not sure if they would look good for other ships... Every ship in SWC seems kinda weird looking if you compare them with the old WC1 ones. I think there was a Talon cockpit in privateer, isn't it? or maybe I'm wrong.... Anyway, if you want I can take some screenshots of SWC.

08-13-2007, 12:55	#5
Quarto Unknown Enemy Join Date: Jan 2000 Location: Poland Posts: 9,849	Well, the thing about SWC is that its ships were re-used in a lot of other projects, including Priv and Armada. And, on top of that, its ships reused a lot of parts between each other. So, the SWC Hornet has more or less the same cockpit shape as the Talon (SWC Gratha) - that's why SWC Hornet interior shots would be really useful. (no Talon cockpit in Privateer, I'm afraid... the Talon wasn't flyable there)

08-14-2007, 00:54	#9
Natreg Cadet Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 12	Hornet cockpit: Scimitar cockpit: If I can finish the mission of saving that transport from Bhurack I'll post the raptor one

08-14-2007, 01:55	#10
Quarto Unknown Enemy Join Date: Jan 2000 Location: Poland Posts: 9,849	Thanks! Heh, they didn't try very hard to make the cockpits match the ship exteriors, did they?

08-14-2007, 03:41	#12
Kavok Swabbie Banned Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Leeds, UK Posts: 102	Sir, The Hornet is at last restored her lasers. I salute you!

08-16-2007, 07:57	#16
gevatter Lars Colonel Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Hamburg Germany Posts: 1,117	The new cockpits are well done. The Arrow seams a bit empty without the displays showing something but thats ok. Mostly I like the Broadswords cockpit. It looks big, fitting to a bomber of its size. __________________ I give suggar in my coffee, and the coffee just gets totaly depressed, because I can't accept him, as he is.

08-16-2007, 08:11	#17
Dundradal Rampant since 1994 Join Date: Jan 2000 Location: Installation 00 Posts: 3,568	Simply gorgeous Eder, as always. It definitely has a roomy feel about it. Good work. __________________ "To you, we are deeply grateful, and release what little hold we might, as Durandal, have had on your soul. Go." - Final Terminal Message Marathon Infinity

08-16-2007, 14:28	#19
Vinman Lieutenant Colonel Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Maryland Posts: 851	Do they move around as you maneuver or are they stationary?

08-16-2007, 14:31	#20
Eder Mr. Standoff Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Sao Paulo, Brazil Posts: 3,214	They move a bit... here's a Gladius breaking right: http://standoff.solsector.net/shots/shot201.png __________________ Hi, I'm Ed. You may remember me from such great fan projects as 'Standoff' and 'Unknown Enemy'...

08-16-2007, 14:54	#22
Mekt-Hakkikt Mpanty's bane Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Wiesbaden, Germany Posts: 4,486	The Broadsword's cockpit is as beautiful as the Hornet's cockpit. Looks like I have a weakness for green cockpits... __________________ "Khasra! I have heard enough of Khasra!" For the Glory of Sivar!

08-16-2007, 17:44	#23
Bob McDob Mola mola Join Date: Dec 1969 Location: Grassy Knizzle Posts: 3,117	Yeah, the Broadsword cockpit view is quite remarkable; it gives you a sense a place that none of the others really do. Combined with the new backgrounds it almost looks like a completely different game. __________________ Aboard one destroyer, [Admiral Jacky Fisher] saw the sign "UT VENIANT OMNES" in gold letters mounted on the bridge. "What does that mean?" he asked. "Let 'em all come", replied the youthful lieutenant in command. Robert Massie If it's stupid but it works, then it isn't stupid.

08-16-2007, 22:42	#25
Quarto Unknown Enemy Join Date: Jan 2000 Location: Poland Posts: 9,849	I don't think we have the capability to add a cockpit mesh to the turrets.

08-18-2007, 07:24	#26
Ricochet 1st Lieutenant Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 162	Still, great work guys... __________________ "I'm either stupid in a smart way, or smart in a stupid way."