Name that ship!

BradMick · 10-23-2006, 17:17

Alrighty, so i've started working on one of the ships that may be seen roaming around the cosmos. Some may know it, others may be like 'what in the world is that from?? Well, I leave it to you all to 'Name that Ship!' search high and low the stores of WC information to find it...that's the only hint you'll get.

Here is the rough model right now. working on getting the proportions down at this stage, I think its pretty solid, and i'll move onto the next stage of actually making it look cool here soon (i.e. tommorrow, gotta study now)

Brad

Stone48420 · 10-23-2006, 17:24

Now Im no wing commander expert or nothing like that but it looks like that could be one of the magical shape shifting transports from armada.

Also looks as though your one of the first to model it. I always loved those ships as they are rarely seen. Now Im also curious are you going to arm that kilrathi transport or leave it as it was?

Of Course I could be wrong

BradMick · 10-23-2006, 17:52

Nope, wrong ship.

Stone48420 · 10-23-2006, 18:00

Yeah I started to second guess myself after looking at the rear of the ship.

McGruff · 10-23-2006, 18:22

A grossly misproportioned Raptor?

BradMick · 10-23-2006, 18:28

Nope.

BradMick · 10-23-2006, 19:28

Okay, one other hint....it's never been in any game.

Marc · 10-23-2006, 20:17

easy one, it's the Scarab

The Scarab is the merchant ship described in the opening story contained in the PRIVATEER manual.

Dyret · 10-23-2006, 22:32

Damn, Marc beat me to it.

BradMick · 10-24-2006, 03:14

nice. yup, so today is the day i work on bringing it more to life.

Plasteel Skull · 10-24-2006, 03:18

I don't have this manual. What is this Scarab about as a ship -- besides that it's some merchant ship?

BradMick · 10-24-2006, 04:37

As far as I know it was never put into the manual. It's a piece of unpublished art that is in the CIC archives.

Marc · 10-24-2006, 05:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by Plasteel Skull

I don't have this manual. What is this Scarab about as a ship -- besides that it's some merchant ship?

here, this is a GIF image picture of the first page of the PRIV manual that mentions it (near the bottom of the page):
http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/8...ivman24ui2.gif

Plasteel Skull · 10-24-2006, 06:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marc

here, this is a GIF image picture of the first page of the PRIV manual that mentions it (near the bottom of the page):
http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/8...ivman24ui2.gif

Thanks a lot. The story is evolving in a promising way. It's a shame it is finished shortly after it has begun

.

Marc · 10-24-2006, 07:34

I get the message

I'd like to share the PDF file, but I can't host something like that on my own, just images. Here's the rest in smaller images ( best I can do, sorry).

http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/7...ivman25pw3.gif
http://img58.imageshack.us/img58/327/privman26oo8.gif
http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/2...ivman27od0.gif
http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/5...ivman28cm0.gif
http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/8...ivman29hs2.gif
http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/3...ivman30ob4.gif
http://img58.imageshack.us/img58/5555/privman31xn6.gif

Plasteel Skull · 10-24-2006, 07:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marc

I get the message

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marc

I'd like to share the PDF file, but I can't host something like that on my own, just images. Here's the rest in smaller images ( best I can do, sorry).

More than sufficient to read the whole story. Thanks Marc!

Bandit LOAF · 10-24-2006, 09:43

Both the Privateer manual (with the story) and the cartoons they opted not to buy are available at the CIC.

Published manual: http://download.wcnews.com/files/man...ide-Manual.pdf

Unused art: http://download.wcnews.com/files/doc...l-Art_High.zip

Plasteel Skull · 10-24-2006, 12:21

Great pictures and a lot of info. Thanks!

P.S.: BTW I neither believe that Americans are out to get me nor dislike them in general... I wouldn't even post here if that was the case, right?

BradMick · 10-25-2006, 17:27

So this weekend i'm looking at picking this back up, been busy with classes that are draining my brain of all thought power. Learn all that nifty pilots mission planning stuff this week, lots of time in front of a computer. Looking forward to the weekend.

Brad

Vinman · 10-26-2006, 06:56

Thats really cool, even if it reminds me a little bit of the Cerberus.

What sort of stuff is going to be added to the bottom, since you don't get a good look at it from the reference materials?

Taser8 · 10-26-2006, 17:10

I could be wrong, but that looks like Glen Johnson's work to me...

Bandit LOAF · 10-26-2006, 17:32

The artist for the unused manual stuff was someone named Greg Follender, who wasn't with Origin -- he was based in New York City and did the stuff on commission. There's some copies of faxes between him and Joel Manners in our archive section. I'm certainly curious about why they ended up dropping the art (he also did art for the rest of the manual, including line drawings of all the ships, which also didn't get used).

Glen Johnson's Claw Marks artwork was certainly the basis for it.

09-18-2008, 22:12

Howdy folks...

This is Greg Follender... the artist in question in regards to those unused Freebooter manual illustrations.
Incidentally, some of the artwork sandwiched in between the game images is an excerpt from an old graphic novel I created and sent to Joel Manners as a sort of tryout for the job when he first pitched it to me.

Very strange looking over that stuff after so long... oh... and damned painful as well.
Some of it is just plain embarrassing. Still... I was very young and hopeful and it was one of my first paying freelance gigs. Too bad it never went anywhere. They never even really told me why they dropped the finished manual from the project... money issues are all they would offer for an explanation.

As far as the name of the artist you mentioned in prior posts regarding my works influence... I've never heard of the man. All I was given was basic schematics of each ship and idea sketches for basic costuming. The rest is all me... in al it's lackluster glory. If the images do seem coincidentally reminiscent of another artist's work... then I truly feel bad for him, poor bastard

I'm glad someone posted those images though... all I have are the loose originals (which look a HELL of a lot better than those low-res scans, I must say... relatively speaking of course) and they are a pain to handle because of their age and fragile condition.

Thanks for the kind words though, folks...

Regards,
GREG

AD · 09-18-2008, 22:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Howdy folks...

This is Greg Follender... the artist in question in regards to those unused Freebooter manual illustrations.
Incidentally, some of the artwork sandwiched in between the game images is an excerpt from an old graphic novel I created and sent to Joel Manners as a sort of tryout for the job when he first pitched it to me.

Very strange looking over that stuff after so long... oh... and damned painful as well.
Some of it is just plain embarrassing. Still... I was very young and hopeful and it was one of my first paying freelance gigs. Too bad it never went anywhere. They never even really told me why they dropped the finished manual from the project... money issues are all they would offer for an explanation.

As far as the name of the artist you mentioned in prior posts regarding my works influence... I've never heard of the man. All I was given was basic schematics of each ship and idea sketches for basic costuming. The rest is all me... in al it's lackluster glory. If the images do seem coincidentally reminiscent of another artist's work... then I truly feel bad for him, poor bastard

I'm glad someone posted those images though... all I have are the loose originals (which look a HELL of a lot better than those low-res scans, I must say... relatively speaking of course) and they are a pain to handle because of their age and fragile condition.

Thanks for the kind words though, folks...

Regards,
GREG

Thanks for the info Greg. It really is a shame the art never got used. No matter how much better you are now, they're certainly a whole hell of a lot better than I could ever manage!

Also I'm certain the CIC guys would gladly host higher resolution scans of the images here as well.

AD

Bandit LOAF · 09-19-2008, 05:33

Woah, very cool that you found us! I'm the guy who scanned all that -- they're from a folder of photocopies that was still lying around the Digital Anvil/former Origin offices in 2003.

Everyone we've shown that art to agrees that it would have been a lot cooler than what they went with (screenshots from the game and big blocks of text without much art at all).

Plasteel Skull · 09-19-2008, 07:42

Let us know, if he contacted you back (or other way around) about his art and possibility of scanning it in better resolution.

10-23-2006, 17:17	#1
BradMick Lieutenant Colonel Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Fort Rucker, AL Posts: 967	Name that ship! Alrighty, so i've started working on one of the ships that may be seen roaming around the cosmos. Some may know it, others may be like 'what in the world is that from?? Well, I leave it to you all to 'Name that Ship!' search high and low the stores of WC information to find it...that's the only hint you'll get. Here is the rough model right now. working on getting the proportions down at this stage, I think its pretty solid, and i'll move onto the next stage of actually making it look cool here soon (i.e. tommorrow, gotta study now) Brad __________________ WC Pioneer - Concept Artist - Game Designer - Modeler

10-23-2006, 17:24	#2
Stone48420 2nd Lieutenant Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Michigan Posts: 130	Now Im no wing commander expert or nothing like that but it looks like that could be one of the magical shape shifting transports from armada. Also looks as though your one of the first to model it. I always loved those ships as they are rarely seen. Now Im also curious are you going to arm that kilrathi transport or leave it as it was? Of Course I could be wrong __________________ I mean you no harm.

10-23-2006, 17:52	#3
BradMick Lieutenant Colonel Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Fort Rucker, AL Posts: 967	Nope, wrong ship. __________________ WC Pioneer - Concept Artist - Game Designer - Modeler

10-23-2006, 18:00	#4
Stone48420 2nd Lieutenant Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Michigan Posts: 130	Yeah I started to second guess myself after looking at the rear of the ship. __________________ I mean you no harm.

10-23-2006, 18:28	#6
BradMick Lieutenant Colonel Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Fort Rucker, AL Posts: 967	Nope. __________________ WC Pioneer - Concept Artist - Game Designer - Modeler

10-23-2006, 18:22	#5
McGruff Forever Cadet Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: CIC brig Posts: 2,578	A grossly misproportioned Raptor?

10-23-2006, 19:28	#7
BradMick Lieutenant Colonel Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Fort Rucker, AL Posts: 967	Okay, one other hint....it's never been in any game. __________________ WC Pioneer - Concept Artist - Game Designer - Modeler

10-23-2006, 20:17	#8
Marc Captain Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: 3rd Rock Posts: 479	easy one, it's the Scarab The Scarab is the merchant ship described in the opening story contained in the PRIVATEER manual. __________________ "Untill you realise that someday you will die, you are useless"_fightclub

10-23-2006, 22:32	#9
Dyret Super Carrot! Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Norway Posts: 2,151	Damn, Marc beat me to it. __________________ Glory to the many

10-24-2006, 03:14	#10
BradMick Lieutenant Colonel Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Fort Rucker, AL Posts: 967	nice. yup, so today is the day i work on bringing it more to life. __________________ WC Pioneer - Concept Artist - Game Designer - Modeler

10-24-2006, 03:18	#11
Plasteel Skull 1st Lieutenant Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Česká Republika Posts: 227	I don't have this manual. What is this Scarab about as a ship -- besides that it's some merchant ship?

10-24-2006, 04:37	#12
BradMick Lieutenant Colonel Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Fort Rucker, AL Posts: 967	As far as I know it was never put into the manual. It's a piece of unpublished art that is in the CIC archives. __________________ WC Pioneer - Concept Artist - Game Designer - Modeler

10-24-2006, 07:34	#15
Marc Captain Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: 3rd Rock Posts: 479	I get the message I'd like to share the PDF file, but I can't host something like that on my own, just images. Here's the rest in smaller images ( best I can do, sorry). http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/7...ivman25pw3.gif http://img58.imageshack.us/img58/327/privman26oo8.gif http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/2...ivman27od0.gif http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/5...ivman28cm0.gif http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/8...ivman29hs2.gif http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/3...ivman30ob4.gif http://img58.imageshack.us/img58/5555/privman31xn6.gif __________________ "Untill you realise that someday you will die, you are useless"_fightclub

10-24-2006, 09:43	#17
Bandit LOAF It wears the skull of its dead mother on its head. When it becomes lonesome, it is said to cry loudly. Join Date: Jan 2000 Location: Ashton, MD, USA Posts: 23,934	Both the Privateer manual (with the story) and the cartoons they opted not to buy are available at the CIC. Published manual: http://download.wcnews.com/files/man...ide-Manual.pdf Unused art: http://download.wcnews.com/files/doc...l-Art_High.zip __________________ Long live the Confederation, Ben "Bandit" Lesnick, LMG. "You go, Loaf! Get some!" -JPG

10-24-2006, 12:21	#18
Plasteel Skull 1st Lieutenant Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Česká Republika Posts: 227	Great pictures and a lot of info. Thanks! P.S.: BTW I neither believe that Americans are out to get me nor dislike them in general... I wouldn't even post here if that was the case, right?

10-25-2006, 17:27	#19
BradMick Lieutenant Colonel Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Fort Rucker, AL Posts: 967	So this weekend i'm looking at picking this back up, been busy with classes that are draining my brain of all thought power. Learn all that nifty pilots mission planning stuff this week, lots of time in front of a computer. Looking forward to the weekend. Brad __________________ WC Pioneer - Concept Artist - Game Designer - Modeler

10-26-2006, 06:56	#20
Vinman Lieutenant Colonel Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Maryland Posts: 906	Thats really cool, even if it reminds me a little bit of the Cerberus. What sort of stuff is going to be added to the bottom, since you don't get a good look at it from the reference materials?

10-26-2006, 17:10	#21
Taser8 Cadet Join Date: May 2004 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 60	I could be wrong, but that looks like Glen Johnson's work to me...

10-26-2006, 17:32	#22
Bandit LOAF It wears the skull of its dead mother on its head. When it becomes lonesome, it is said to cry loudly. Join Date: Jan 2000 Location: Ashton, MD, USA Posts: 23,934	The artist for the unused manual stuff was someone named Greg Follender, who wasn't with Origin -- he was based in New York City and did the stuff on commission. There's some copies of faxes between him and Joel Manners in our archive section. I'm certainly curious about why they ended up dropping the art (he also did art for the rest of the manual, including line drawings of all the ships, which also didn't get used). Glen Johnson's Claw Marks artwork was certainly the basis for it. __________________ Long live the Confederation, Ben "Bandit" Lesnick, LMG. "You go, Loaf! Get some!" -JPG

09-18-2008, 22:12	#23
Unregistered Guest Posts: n/a	Weighing in... Howdy folks... This is Greg Follender... the artist in question in regards to those unused Freebooter manual illustrations. Incidentally, some of the artwork sandwiched in between the game images is an excerpt from an old graphic novel I created and sent to Joel Manners as a sort of tryout for the job when he first pitched it to me. Very strange looking over that stuff after so long... oh... and damned painful as well. Some of it is just plain embarrassing. Still... I was very young and hopeful and it was one of my first paying freelance gigs. Too bad it never went anywhere. They never even really told me why they dropped the finished manual from the project... money issues are all they would offer for an explanation. As far as the name of the artist you mentioned in prior posts regarding my works influence... I've never heard of the man. All I was given was basic schematics of each ship and idea sketches for basic costuming. The rest is all me... in al it's lackluster glory. If the images do seem coincidentally reminiscent of another artist's work... then I truly feel bad for him, poor bastard I'm glad someone posted those images though... all I have are the loose originals (which look a HELL of a lot better than those low-res scans, I must say... relatively speaking of course) and they are a pain to handle because of their age and fragile condition. Thanks for the kind words though, folks... Regards, GREG

09-19-2008, 05:33	#25
Bandit LOAF It wears the skull of its dead mother on its head. When it becomes lonesome, it is said to cry loudly. Join Date: Jan 2000 Location: Ashton, MD, USA Posts: 23,934	Woah, very cool that you found us! I'm the guy who scanned all that -- they're from a folder of photocopies that was still lying around the Digital Anvil/former Origin offices in 2003. Everyone we've shown that art to agrees that it would have been a lot cooler than what they went with (screenshots from the game and big blocks of text without much art at all). __________________ Long live the Confederation, Ben "Bandit" Lesnick, LMG. "You go, Loaf! Get some!" -JPG

09-19-2008, 07:42	#26
Plasteel Skull 1st Lieutenant Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Česká Republika Posts: 227	Let us know, if he contacted you back (or other way around) about his art and possibility of scanning it in better resolution.