Wing Commander CIC Forums  

Go Back   Wing Commander CIC Forums > Wing Commander Chat Zone > News Discussion

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 06-10-2006, 17:00   #1
Cpl Hades
Mr. Kat
Administrator
 
Cpl Hades's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2000
Location: Southampton, UK
Posts: 1,372
Send a message via ICQ to Cpl Hades
Don't Fear Upgrading Windows (June 11, 2006)

With the public preview of Windows Vista beta 2 now available, we took the opportunity to test its compatibility with various WC games. The findings are quite positive with Windows XP suffering many of the same problems, and almost all of them have a solution.


  • Kilrathi Saga WC1/WC2 - The games start, but the graphics are distorted making the game unplayable. This is quite likely to be an issue with the PC's graphics card driver being unable to switch to 320x200 resolution since I had much the same issue with XP. I haven't found a solution for this as of yet, but with DosBox now able to run the DOS versions so well, this could be considered a minor problem.
  • Kilrathi Saga WC3 - Running the game straight after installation produces a problem with the wrong colors being displayed, but setting "Run in 256 colors" and "Run in 640x480" in compatibility mode options solves this, making the game perfectly playable.
  • Wing Commander 4 Windows - Installation proved a problem with the DOS mode installer refusing to run in Windows and DosBox crashing, but fortunately I found an old installation on my hard drive. Using that, the game itself ran with no issues.
  • Wing Commander 4 DVD - Tested with Gulilkoza's patch to run the game without a DXR board, and with the game set to Windows 98 compatibility mode. No problems at all.


  • Privateer 2 Deluxe Windows - The installer's colors were mixed up unless it was set to run in Windows 98 compatibility mode. The installer also has the well-known "not enough space" error which is fixed by simply creating a c:\dark directory before running the installer. The game also ran too fast until Jonathan Scobbie's speed patch was applied.
  • Wing Commander Prophecy - Tested with the latest version of HCl's high-res patch which will be released with the multiplayer patch. The game ran flawlessly.
  • Wing Commander Secret Ops - Tested with HCl's high-res patch. The version of the patch available for Secret Ops is older than the one used to test Prophecy. SO worked fine, but it was also necessary to set Windows 98 compatibility mode. This may not be required with a more up-to-date high-res patch.
So there you have it. You can play virtually everything current XP systems allow, which includes almost every Wing Commander game. Unless something major changes between now and release, there is no reason for anyone not to upgrade to the full version of Vista. Other than it not actually offering any major advantages over XP that is.

--
Original update published on June 11, 2006
Cpl Hades is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-12-2006, 09:51   #2
AD
Finder of things, Doer of stuff
 
AD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: BC, Canada
Posts: 3,000
I'm curious to know how you found the beta for running non WC software designed for XP. I'm tempted to try the beta, having an athlon 64. Also did you need to reinstall any of the WC games first? Or was it just a matter or resetting up compatability modes and such? I've heard about install incompatability problems with things like nero7 for example.
__________________
"I saw a monster come with speed, Its face of grimmliest green,
On human beings used to feed, Most dreadful to be seen."

- Excerpt from Horrors, Lewis Carroll, 1850
AD is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-12-2006, 10:02   #3
PopsiclePete
Mission programmer
 
PopsiclePete's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2000
Location: Amos, Québec
Posts: 842
Quote:
Originally Posted by AD
I'm curious to know how you found the beta for running non WC software designed for XP.
Straight from Microsoft's website.
__________________
PopsiclePete's WC Page : http://popsiclepete.solsector.net
E-mail : PopsiclePete [at] hotmail.com
PopsiclePete is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-12-2006, 12:22   #4
AD
Finder of things, Doer of stuff
 
AD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: BC, Canada
Posts: 3,000
Quote:
Originally Posted by PopsiclePete
[Straight from Microsoft's website.
You should know that's not what I need to know.
__________________
"I saw a monster come with speed, Its face of grimmliest green,
On human beings used to feed, Most dreadful to be seen."

- Excerpt from Horrors, Lewis Carroll, 1850
AD is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-12-2006, 15:51   #5
ChrisReid
Super Soaker Collector
Administrator
 
ChrisReid's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2000
Location: Seattle, Washington, USA
Posts: 9,865
Send a message via AIM to ChrisReid
Quote:
Originally Posted by PopsiclePete
You have to finish reading the sentence Pete. "...for running non WC software designed for XP"
ChrisReid is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-12-2006, 16:40   #6
PopsiclePete
Mission programmer
 
PopsiclePete's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2000
Location: Amos, Québec
Posts: 842
D'oh ! It would seem that years of forums reading didn't improve my second language as much as I would have liked too ! Re-reading the sentence now I see I misunderstood it, silly me

I have juste installed the beta on a lab PC at job, and I'll test various software on it in the next days. I'll tell you how it performs later this week if you want.
__________________
PopsiclePete's WC Page : http://popsiclepete.solsector.net
E-mail : PopsiclePete [at] hotmail.com
PopsiclePete is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-12-2006, 22:53   #7
AD
Finder of things, Doer of stuff
 
AD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: BC, Canada
Posts: 3,000
Quote:
Originally Posted by PopsiclePete
D'oh ! It would seem that years of forums reading didn't improve my second language as much as I would have liked too ! Re-reading the sentence now I see I misunderstood it, silly me

I have juste installed the beta on a lab PC at job, and I'll test various software on it in the next days. I'll tell you how it performs later this week if you want.

That would be good... though I ran into a curious problem after burning the ISO to a DVD. CAn you not install the 64 bit version directly from XP (32bit) or are the different downloads for installing it in 64 or 32 bit XP? So with a 64 bit processor do I still download what it calls the 32 bit version? My PC tells me that the setup file within the ISO is not a valid win32 aplication.... I'll look and see what MS' site says.
__________________
"I saw a monster come with speed, Its face of grimmliest green,
On human beings used to feed, Most dreadful to be seen."

- Excerpt from Horrors, Lewis Carroll, 1850
AD is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-13-2006, 05:23   #8
PopsiclePete
Mission programmer
 
PopsiclePete's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2000
Location: Amos, Québec
Posts: 842
Vista 64bits and 32bits versions are downloaded separately. And no, you cannot upgrade from a 32bits to a 64bits Windows (XP or Vista, same behaviour). You'll have to either boot from the 64bits version DVD and make a full install or download the 32bits version to upgrade your current 32bits WinXP to Vista.
__________________
PopsiclePete's WC Page : http://popsiclepete.solsector.net
E-mail : PopsiclePete [at] hotmail.com
PopsiclePete is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-14-2006, 01:05   #9
AD
Finder of things, Doer of stuff
 
AD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: BC, Canada
Posts: 3,000
Quote:
Originally Posted by PopsiclePete
Vista 64bits and 32bits versions are downloaded separately. And no, you cannot upgrade from a 32bits to a 64bits Windows (XP or Vista, same behaviour). You'll have to either boot from the 64bits version DVD and make a full install or download the 32bits version to upgrade your current 32bits WinXP to Vista.

Had some PC trouble... so Idid some tinkering and noticed just that. When and If I install the beta I just have to make sure my bios is set up to boot from the DVD...
__________________
"I saw a monster come with speed, Its face of grimmliest green,
On human beings used to feed, Most dreadful to be seen."

- Excerpt from Horrors, Lewis Carroll, 1850
AD is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -8. The time now is 06:46.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.