Wing Commander CCG cards

Drizzt Do Urden · 01-05-2006, 10:04

I was just curious how many cards are in the total set of Wing Commander CCG cards?

ChrisReid · 01-05-2006, 20:31

In the main set of 312 there were 90 commons, 100 uncommons, 100 rares and 22 nav points. There were also an additional 2 promo cards. In each booster pack you'd get 8 commons, 4 uncommons, 2 rares and a nav point. We have card lists and things in the CCG section. http://www.wcnews.com/wcccg/

I had a dream last week that LOAF was upset at how little we played the WC CCG at DragonCon last year, so he issued each person a starter deck at the 2006 meet-up to make sure they'd play.

Maj.Striker · 01-05-2006, 20:51

Boy, I'd love to collect them. But alas I learned of the game far too late to get a complete collection.

LeHah · 01-05-2006, 22:11

Strangely, the CCG was the first thing I knew of WC outside of comic book ads. I still have my deck somewhere and the rules. I've never played the game but knowing what I know about CCGs from the 1990s, this one seemed like a lot of fun to play.

d3r3k · 01-06-2006, 00:07

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Originally Posted by ChrisReid

I had a dream last week that LOAF was upset at how little we played the WC CCG at DragonCon last year, so he issued each person a starter deck at the 2006 meet-up to make sure they'd play.

That is the strangest dream I have ever heard of.

ChrisReid · 01-06-2006, 19:39

Yeah, in reality LOAF was really glad the CCG didn't take over the convention like in 2004.

Drizzt Do Urden · 01-07-2006, 11:45

Thanks for all the Card help

Powerslave · 01-18-2006, 20:40

I wish I would've known about the ccg when it was around! It sounds like a really fun game! Are there any known places to get a hold of it anymore? Or is Ebay the only one?

ChrisReid · 01-18-2006, 20:58

Occasionally a rare card shop will show up with a few cards, but it's really just eBay. A complete set is much harder to get than a Kilrathi Saga, and it'll only get harder. I recommend people start sooner rather than later if they want to collect. There are only a handful of people I know of here who have them all.

TopGun · 01-19-2006, 15:34

I'll keep an eye out for any

Iceman16 · 01-19-2006, 17:45

ya, I got lucky, Ive been lookin on ebay for a long time for the cards and finally found a terran starter deck for about $10 CAN. I cant wait for them to arrive!

Maj.Striker · 01-19-2006, 20:39

I just ordered a Terran and a Kilrathi starter kit shipped for $20, probably not the greatest deal but I figured it was worth it. Some guy has a 400 card collection on ebay right now but my personal recommendation would be to stay away from it. The guy is a brand new registered user with absolutely no feedback...doesn't sound very encouraging to me.

J.L. Robert · 01-23-2006, 17:27

I guess I feel lucky that I just pinched 2 boxes from a local convention last weekend. 1 starter display and 1 booster display...US$10 for both.

With the 2 starters and 12 boosters I purchased 10 years ago(!), I'm now just looking to swap out cards with someone in order to get quantities of cards that I would be happy with...10 of each Common, 4 of each Uncommon and 1 or 2 of each Rare. If anyone can help me out with that, just drop me a line.

TopGun · 01-24-2006, 03:54

You sure are lucky

J.L. Robert · 01-25-2006, 09:49

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Originally Posted by TopGun

You sure are lucky

Seeing how much the auction on eBay went for, I would now have to agree with you.

When the game came out 10 years ago, I only ever saw it for sale at one store. Fortunately for me, it was my LGS. I purchased 2 starters and 12 boosters then, and that was all I had up until 2 weeks ago.

Gunslinger2 · 01-25-2006, 11:16

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Originally Posted by J.L. Robert

I guess I feel lucky that I just pinched 2 boxes from a local convention last weekend. 1 starter display and 1 booster display...US$10 for both.

With the 2 starters and 12 boosters I purchased 10 years ago(!), I'm now just looking to swap out cards with someone in order to get quantities of cards that I would be happy with...10 of each Common, 4 of each Uncommon and 1 or 2 of each Rare. If anyone can help me out with that, just drop me a line.

I have quite a few WC CCG cards. A couple of years ago I went WC CCG crazy and bought boxes of starter decks and booster packs from ebay. Even with all that, I still needed to trade to complete one set (Once again, thanks Chris!!

). I am now only missing the Admiral Tolwyn Promo card to totally complete one set. That being said, I could help out with some commons and uncommons (unfortunately I don't have too many extra rares but maybe some). I don't exactly know what spares I have (I am at work) at the moment but can check tonight if anyone is interested

J.L. Robert · 01-25-2006, 15:43

Promo cards? Ugh.

There was a mention of 2 promo cards. One was (apparently) another Adm. Tolwyn. What was the other? And how were they obtained?

If they're just the same stats as the regular cards, then I probably won't have much need in getting them. But if they have different values, then I may have to consider trying to find them, too!

Sometimes I hate being a completist.

Bandit LOAF · 01-25-2006, 15:52

There were two promo cards. I believe both have different stats than their regular set equivalents (although I don't have my set here in Texas to check). Both promo cards have cool artwork that's decidedly a step above the rest of the CCG.

The first was "Col. Christopher Blair - Heart of the Tiger". He was given out at GenCon in 1995, where they had Mark Hamill on hand to sign cards.

The second was, as mentioned, Admiral Tolwyn. Tolwyn promos were given out in some copies of Wing Commander IV during its first printing (in Feb. 1996). Something like 1 in 10 had a CCG card and then 1 in 10 of those ended up having a Tolwyn promo. I have no idea how they decided this.

They're not as rare as that makes them sound, though, as Mag Force 7 was happy to mail people fistfulls of promos upon request for quite a while -- there's plenty out there (especially plenty of Blair's -- Tolwyn is rarer).

Question from your .sig: are you some kind of CCG collector? That's got to be an interesting hobby... I certainly miss the mid-90s when you could develop a card game based on pretty much any property.

ChrisReid · 01-25-2006, 19:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bandit LOAF

There were two promo cards. I believe both have different stats than their regular set equivalents (although I don't have my set here in Texas to check). Both promo cards have cool artwork that's decidedly a step above the rest of the CCG.

The Promo Blair has a minor stat tweak. The Promo Tolwyn is completely different.

Blair:
Cost: 2 Medal + 4 Points
Stats: +1 Attack, +1 Maneuver, 2 Medal, Immune to Traitor card
Promo Blair also had +1 Support

Tolwyn:
Cost: 2 Medal + 3 Points
Stats: Provides 1 Power Point each draw phase

Promo Tolwyn:
Cost: 2 Medal + 4 Point Points
Stats: 1 Medal, May use Medal Point for mustering or to boost any flight with a pilot card

J.L. Robert · 01-26-2006, 07:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bandit LOAF

Question from your .sig: are you some kind of CCG collector? That's got to be an interesting hobby... I certainly miss the mid-90s when you could develop a card game based on pretty much any property.

I have a rather large collection of CCG's. While I only really only collect 1 or 2 at a time, I do go about trying to obtain complete sets of each one I do have. The collection also covers a wide range of subjects and genres. It takes up a lot of space at home, but, IMO, it's a heck of a better way to spend my free money than many other vices out there.

Part of collecting is trading, and I've had to conduct many, many trades, mostly online, to help fill out sets, sell off extras, or just to help out fellow collectors. I can conservatively estimate that I've made over 500 trades by post in the past 10 years, to most every state in the US and across 5 different continents.

The WC CCG is really a sideline game for me. Since there was no established structure on card limits in a deck (aside from overall deck size), I'm only estimating how many cards I'd want based on rarity, and I figure 10/4/2 for commons/uncommons/rares should be sufficient.

If any of you are able and/or willing to trade WC or any other CCG I may have, please feel free to PM me.

Gunslinger2 · 01-26-2006, 14:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by J.L. Robert

I have a rather large collection of CCG's. While I only really only collect 1 or 2 at a time, I do go about trying to obtain complete sets of each one I do have. The collection also covers a wide range of subjects and genres. It takes up a lot of space at home, but, IMO, it's a heck of a better way to spend my free money than many other vices out there.

Part of collecting is trading, and I've had to conduct many, many trades, mostly online, to help fill out sets, sell off extras, or just to help out fellow collectors. I can conservatively estimate that I've made over 500 trades by post in the past 10 years, to most every state in the US and across 5 different continents.

The WC CCG is really a sideline game for me. Since there was no established structure on card limits in a deck (aside from overall deck size), I'm only estimating how many cards I'd want based on rarity, and I figure 10/4/2 for commons/uncommons/rares should be sufficient.

If any of you are able and/or willing to trade WC or any other CCG I may have, please feel free to PM me.

FYI, in case you may want to see what the ones you do not have look like, check out this website. He doesn't show them all but has most of them there.

http://www.geocities.com/jetlag_jab.geo/cards.html

Powerslave · 02-18-2006, 19:20

I just found a whole starter pack for $100 on Ebay. I really wish that I didn't spend my whole paycheck on gas and groceries... I could do without a car or food for another month... *shifty eyes*

LeHah · 02-18-2006, 20:50

That price is way too high. I purchased a ton (About 8 booster packs worth, if not more) of WC CCG cards in 2004 for a lump sum of about $20

ChrisReid · 02-18-2006, 22:52

He's talking about 12 starter packs (a full box) for $100. That's on the high side, but cheaper than the retail price would have been back in the day. You kind of have to take every card you can get if you're trying to collect now, but 12 starter packs will only get you about a quarter to third of the (rare) set if you're lucky.

Medron Pryde · 02-28-2006, 04:27

I only just heard that there was a CCG for this game.

Dang...*sighs*

Now I just have to see if I can find a way of GETTING them...*sighs*

*Medron goes ebay checking*

ChrisReid · 02-28-2006, 19:59

Yeah, there's lots of stuff. If you've only played a few games, a great place to start building up your collection would be the novels. They're mostly cheap and easy to find. Check out http://www.wcnews.com/background for a little bit more.

J.L. Robert · 03-05-2006, 13:48

Chris,

Just wanted to say thanks a ton for helping to fill out my collection. I received your package Saturday. I'll be sending out the cards you asked for this week.

And to others, I'll be happy to work out something if any of you can supply me with any of the following cards. I'll be happy to allow Chris to serve as a broker, if he wishes to do so (to

01-05-2006, 10:04	#1
Drizzt Do Urden Captain Join Date: May 2004 Location: Georgia Posts: 388	Wing Commander CCG cards I was just curious how many cards are in the total set of Wing Commander CCG cards?

01-05-2006, 22:11	#4
LeHah 212th Special Ops, "The Old Man's Eyes And Ears" Join Date: May 2000 Location: Blackmane System Posts: 7,202	Strangely, the CCG was the first thing I knew of WC outside of comic book ads. I still have my deck somewhere and the rules. I've never played the game but knowing what I know about CCGs from the 1990s, this one seemed like a lot of fun to play. __________________ Gleaming shell of an outworn lie; fable of Right divine -- You gained your crowns by heritage, but Blood was the price of mine. The throne that I won by blood and sweat, by Crom, I will not sell For promise of valleys filled with gold, or threat of the Halls of Hell!

01-18-2006, 20:40	#8
Powerslave Cadet Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Livonia, MI Posts: 3	I wish I would've known about the ccg when it was around! It sounds like a really fun game! Are there any known places to get a hold of it anymore? Or is Ebay the only one? __________________ "The Stain of Freedom is the blood of those who have fallen..."

01-19-2006, 15:34	#10
TopGun Vampire Ace Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Portsmouth, UK Posts: 3,367	I'll keep an eye out for any __________________ Wing Commander, Alpha Wing, Wolfpack Squadron, TCS William Eisen

01-19-2006, 17:45	#11
Iceman16 Lieutenant Colonel Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: BC, Canada Posts: 945	ya, I got lucky, Ive been lookin on ebay for a long time for the cards and finally found a terran starter deck for about $10 CAN. I cant wait for them to arrive! __________________ "I don't trust anything that bleeds for 5 days and doesn't die."-Mr. Garrison, South Park

01-05-2006, 20:31	#2
ChrisReid Super Soaker Collector Administrator Join Date: Jan 2000 Location: Seattle, Washington, USA Posts: 9,865	In the main set of 312 there were 90 commons, 100 uncommons, 100 rares and 22 nav points. There were also an additional 2 promo cards. In each booster pack you'd get 8 commons, 4 uncommons, 2 rares and a nav point. We have card lists and things in the CCG section. http://www.wcnews.com/wcccg/ I had a dream last week that LOAF was upset at how little we played the WC CCG at DragonCon last year, so he issued each person a starter deck at the 2006 meet-up to make sure they'd play.

01-05-2006, 20:51	#3
Maj.Striker Swabbie Banned Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Des Moines Posts: 2,067	Boy, I'd love to collect them. But alas I learned of the game far too late to get a complete collection.

01-06-2006, 19:39	#6
ChrisReid Super Soaker Collector Administrator Join Date: Jan 2000 Location: Seattle, Washington, USA Posts: 9,865	Yeah, in reality LOAF was really glad the CCG didn't take over the convention like in 2004.

01-07-2006, 11:45	#7
Drizzt Do Urden Captain Join Date: May 2004 Location: Georgia Posts: 388	Thanks for all the Card help

01-18-2006, 20:58	#9
ChrisReid Super Soaker Collector Administrator Join Date: Jan 2000 Location: Seattle, Washington, USA Posts: 9,865	Occasionally a rare card shop will show up with a few cards, but it's really just eBay. A complete set is much harder to get than a Kilrathi Saga, and it'll only get harder. I recommend people start sooner rather than later if they want to collect. There are only a handful of people I know of here who have them all.

01-19-2006, 20:39	#12
Maj.Striker Swabbie Banned Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Des Moines Posts: 2,067	I just ordered a Terran and a Kilrathi starter kit shipped for $20, probably not the greatest deal but I figured it was worth it. Some guy has a 400 card collection on ebay right now but my personal recommendation would be to stay away from it. The guy is a brand new registered user with absolutely no feedback...doesn't sound very encouraging to me.

01-23-2006, 17:27	#13
J.L. Robert Cadet Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 7	I guess I feel lucky that I just pinched 2 boxes from a local convention last weekend. 1 starter display and 1 booster display...US$10 for both. With the 2 starters and 12 boosters I purchased 10 years ago(!), I'm now just looking to swap out cards with someone in order to get quantities of cards that I would be happy with...10 of each Common, 4 of each Uncommon and 1 or 2 of each Rare. If anyone can help me out with that, just drop me a line.

01-24-2006, 03:54	#14
TopGun Vampire Ace Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Portsmouth, UK Posts: 3,367	You sure are lucky __________________ Wing Commander, Alpha Wing, Wolfpack Squadron, TCS William Eisen

01-25-2006, 15:43	#17
J.L. Robert Cadet Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 7	Promo cards? Ugh. There was a mention of 2 promo cards. One was (apparently) another Adm. Tolwyn. What was the other? And how were they obtained? If they're just the same stats as the regular cards, then I probably won't have much need in getting them. But if they have different values, then I may have to consider trying to find them, too! Sometimes I hate being a completist. __________________ J.L. Robert CCG Trader Extraordinaire Will Cross-Trade Games, too!

01-25-2006, 15:52	#18
Bandit LOAF It wears the skull of its dead mother on its head. When it becomes lonesome, it is said to cry loudly. Join Date: Jan 2000 Location: Ashton, MD, USA Posts: 23,925	There were two promo cards. I believe both have different stats than their regular set equivalents (although I don't have my set here in Texas to check). Both promo cards have cool artwork that's decidedly a step above the rest of the CCG. The first was "Col. Christopher Blair - Heart of the Tiger". He was given out at GenCon in 1995, where they had Mark Hamill on hand to sign cards. The second was, as mentioned, Admiral Tolwyn. Tolwyn promos were given out in some copies of Wing Commander IV during its first printing (in Feb. 1996). Something like 1 in 10 had a CCG card and then 1 in 10 of those ended up having a Tolwyn promo. I have no idea how they decided this. They're not as rare as that makes them sound, though, as Mag Force 7 was happy to mail people fistfulls of promos upon request for quite a while -- there's plenty out there (especially plenty of Blair's -- Tolwyn is rarer). Question from your .sig: are you some kind of CCG collector? That's got to be an interesting hobby... I certainly miss the mid-90s when you could develop a card game based on pretty much any property. __________________ Long live the Confederation, Ben "Bandit" Lesnick, LMG. "You go, Loaf! Get some!" -JPG

02-18-2006, 19:20	#22
Powerslave Cadet Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Livonia, MI Posts: 3	I just found a whole starter pack for $100 on Ebay. I really wish that I didn't spend my whole paycheck on gas and groceries... I could do without a car or food for another month... shifty eyes __________________ "The Stain of Freedom is the blood of those who have fallen..."

02-18-2006, 20:50	#23
LeHah 212th Special Ops, "The Old Man's Eyes And Ears" Join Date: May 2000 Location: Blackmane System Posts: 7,202	That price is way too high. I purchased a ton (About 8 booster packs worth, if not more) of WC CCG cards in 2004 for a lump sum of about $20 __________________ Gleaming shell of an outworn lie; fable of Right divine -- You gained your crowns by heritage, but Blood was the price of mine. The throne that I won by blood and sweat, by Crom, I will not sell For promise of valleys filled with gold, or threat of the Halls of Hell!

02-18-2006, 22:52	#24
ChrisReid Super Soaker Collector Administrator Join Date: Jan 2000 Location: Seattle, Washington, USA Posts: 9,865	He's talking about 12 starter packs (a full box) for $100. That's on the high side, but cheaper than the retail price would have been back in the day. You kind of have to take every card you can get if you're trying to collect now, but 12 starter packs will only get you about a quarter to third of the (rare) set if you're lucky.

02-28-2006, 04:27	#25
Medron Pryde Cadet Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 13	I only just heard that there was a CCG for this game. Dang...sighs Now I just have to see if I can find a way of GETTING them...sighs Medron goes ebay checking __________________ Medron Pryde "Now for wrath, now for ruin and a red nightfall!" - Eomer - Return of the King

02-28-2006, 19:59	#26
ChrisReid Super Soaker Collector Administrator Join Date: Jan 2000 Location: Seattle, Washington, USA Posts: 9,865	Yeah, there's lots of stuff. If you've only played a few games, a great place to start building up your collection would be the novels. They're mostly cheap and easy to find. Check out http://www.wcnews.com/background for a little bit more.

03-05-2006, 13:48	#27
J.L. Robert Cadet Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 7	Chris, Just wanted to say thanks a ton for helping to fill out my collection. I received your package Saturday. I'll be sending out the cards you asked for this week. And to others, I'll be happy to work out something if any of you can supply me with any of the following cards. I'll be happy to allow Chris to serve as a broker, if he wishes to do so (to