Nathan Davies ([info]ncodb) wrote,
@ 2007-03-24 17:45:00
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Open letter to Jet.



To Jet.

Because youve got me blocked on MSN and you wont be picking up your phone, this is the only medium i know that will actually get the message out to you.

Go fuck yourself. Youve obviously got something against me, what exactly it is, i will probabbly never know for certain, but i know it's most likely got something to do with one of these points:

- I am friends with Fennec and you cant handle it, because of how easy its been for me and him to get along, and your jealous of this fact.
- I have been more financially stable than you have been for quite some time, jealousy again.
- Having a bit of fun with your sensitivity, obviously reminds you of something.
- Wanting to actually socialise with Kidsune, because it takes away from your oh-so precious time with "the one".

By the way, your opinion of me does not nessicarily reflect that of the entire community. I am talking about this particular thing you said to Darky about me.

24/03/2007 5:22:52 PM - Jet - Nathan, well what can I say about him, other than the fact everyone other than JM does not like him, he talks down to everyone, and is this controling emo fur with more issues than all the drama in perthfurs combined

Lets break this down into a few points..

"everyone other than JM does not like him"

Would you care to back up this statement? If noone liked me, would they continue to talk to me? I went into the city with Rev yesterday, he would have wanted me to take him home after taking him to his interview, but instead, we spent time together. And dont say it's out of politeness, because i know what excuses he could have come up with, such as mopping the kitchen floor again. Fennec's also been very helpful for me, what with lending me his car and helping me get a job. Zarn's still letting me leave alot of my stuff at his place, he could have always said no. Doesnt seem like you have much evidence suggesting otherwise..

"he talks down to everyone"

Since when? With Red, it may seem like it, but we talk to eachother like that all the time, considering he and i are very good friends and have been way before Perthfurs. With anyone else, i have not seen, and if i have, its most likely been part of a joke of some kind. Other people do it, its never taken to heart, so why should you be so offended when i say something to someone else? Maybe i did once talk like that to you for some reason, but it doesn't mean that i talk like that all the time and to absolutly everyone, you alone don't count as "everyone".

"and is this controling emo fur with more issues than all the drama in perthfurs combined"

Controlling.. i'd like to see when i have been. If you plan to talk about that particular situation between me and Red, that is PERSONAL and has NOTHING to do with you, or anyone else in Perthfurs for that matter. If i was really controlling, i would be trying to manipulate people to do whatever i want, but do i? Do i honestly have control over anyone? Do you think i want to have control over anyone? I know noone is going to "obey" me, so why should i even try. You might be getting this impression because of the time i asked you what you meant when you said "I might have someone soon" that time when i was driving you back to Farf's place in Fennec's car. I only asked again a couple of times what you meant because, honestly, it's kind of rude to make a statement so suddenly, then refuse to talk about it at all. Also, it kind of hurt me as it seemed you couldn't talk to me about anything like we used to.

Emo.. yes, i do suffer from depression, but what does that have to do with anything? Do you seem me listening to Simple Plan, wearing try-hard goth clothes whilst cutting my wrists for attention? Do you think i would do stupid attention-grabbing things, like head for the liquor cabnet because my ex arrived? Get a grip on reality already.


Now, maybe we should have a little talk about you and your faults.

You exadurate, you whine, you try to out-do others, your over-protective, and you are not willing to do anything that you might not like.

Allow me to explain.

You exadurate

Alot. And im not joking. You do it way too much, and its impacting on your perception of reality. As i mentioned earlier, you making the statement in the car about you might having someone soon, that was, as i recall, the first time i have actually tried to get you to answer something i didn't understand. Ever since then, you have not been able to trust me with anything more, saying i'm "controlling", "snoopy" and "interfering". This was ONE time. Since then, everything ive said has had a 'double meaning', or something else behind it, like when i said i would finally get a chance to talk to Kidsune properly, you took it as if i was saying something against you. This sort of mentality also seems to be the case with the current situation of noone liking me. Sure, you don't have to like me, but it doesn't mean that everyone else has to not like me either. If someone doesn't, it's they're choice, and they can tell me themselves. Until then, you're talking out your asshole.

You whine

When i used to sit there and listen to you talk about your problems, why you were you where, what happened previously, and your thoughts about the situation, i didn't mind at the time. In fact, i encouraged it, i wanted to know so i could help you. Then you turned around and said "I wish someone would listen to me.." five minutes after telling me "Thanks for listening, i really appreciate it.. noone else has listened without giving they're opinions on what i should do.". How do you think i felt when you said that to me? I then realised you were actually just having a bitch about everything, and that subconciously you didnt actually want any help. Days afterwards, you continued to whine about the same problems, and now, from what i have heard, you now whine about the same stuff, however now it includes how you cant spend time with Kidsune and how his family is controlling. Yeah, sure, i realise there's a problem there, but if your going to say it again and again, at least try to do something about it. If anything, it sounds more emo than what you've claimed i've been.

You try to out-do others

Just one small gripe i have.. Who gives a fuck about some Mustang that can do 600 horsepower. There, its been said. Wow, you want a car that can out-do Fennec's Eunos, well whooptie-do. Whats the point of it, honestly? What does it prove? Oh, your SO much better than Fennec is because your car has more power.. well, doesnt that make you sound like a WRX-wanker who has nothing better to do than to get back at your ex. Thats all it really comes down to, doesn't it? You cant stand the fact Fennec has more material posessions than you do, and probabbly ever will. Who cares, seriously, a car is a car, gets you from A to B and back. Why do you think Zarneth drives a scooter? Get over it.. go for it if you want, but dont keep wanking on about it as if its "omg the best thing EVER!!1". It's like me saying "my Mondeo's better than Fennec's as its motor has only done 110,000km!". Who cares? Get over it.

Your overprotective

This is something ive noticed to have recently developed with you. This one is purely a Kidsune-related thing. Now, im not saying your not allowed to have a relationship with Kidsune, (hell, i suggested finding someone in the first place), you do tend to become very clingy to him when around him or when someone mentions him, both physically and emotionally. Sure, your allowed to do that, but its reaching levels where its all you do, and seems to even be developing into an overprotective mindset. As when i mentioned finally getting to talk to him some time, you immediatly went on the offensive, as if i had said you were holding him away from everyone. After seeing recent events, i would have to say, you most likely seem to be. My original statement held no hidden messages, but not seeing the way you reacted, i would reconsider that fact. I barely know him beyond the facts that he's Brazillian, his parents are overprotective, he's a Fox and he lives in a suburb south of Armadale. Im pretty sure most other people have about the same level of knowledge about him. Take a look at Rev and Zarn, they cuddle, but alot of the time they go off and do they're own thing. Pre-meet, i watched them come out of they're rooms, cuddle, then go back to they're rooms to continue what they were doing on they're computers. Whenever i see you and Kidsune, most of the time you're physically attatched to him, and when you're not, you do nothing but talk about him or keep him in visible range. Sounds rather clingy and overprotective to me.

You are not willing to do anything that you might not like

It's true. You need money, however your security job at Perth Airport means you have to watch a door for 12 hours, rather piss-easy work that pays reasonably well. Yet, your not willing to put the hours in. Now, you have no money again, and because of this, Farf and Raf may lose the rental house and that means you'll have to go find another place to live yet again. Well done. Do you think Fennec likes carting around lettuce, or how Red takes pallets of cold foodstuffs into a freezer? Sure, they complain, but they get on with the job. So, it means you might not be able to see Kidsune for a few days, well, at least you still have money for the non-important stuff like food and shelter. With my soon-to-start nightfill job, i'll be finishing at 11pm every Friday night, and 9:30 Saturday nights, so i may miss out on half the furmeets, but it doesn't mean im going to quit.. in fact, i have more reason not to work than to work, because of university commitments, but i continue on with the job because i know money is important. Speaking of money, when you were still living at Zarn's place, i left $20 on your printer with the $5 you had left, then loaned you $50 a week later because you needed it. Not to mention, this was when i needed the money the most, yet i was still willing to loan you up to $600 to help you get back on your feet. Seeing you do this with your security job has really made me lose faith in your ability to take care of yourself. The next time i see a hobo on the streets, i'll make sure i think of you.


Harsh words? Perhaps, but they needed to be said, whether you like to hear them or not. It's the truth, and im fairly sure they reflect the views of alot of the Perth furs. If anyone does not agree with me, they they're free to say so. I've put my cards on the table, just as you have. Whatever happens now, i will leave up to you to decide. You can talk to me like a sensible adult, you can scold me for this letter, or you can totally ignore me, any of these i will be completely happy with, i just dont care about you anymore until you can sort yourself out.

You know how to contact me. And please, dont threaten me, it only shows how close-minded you are if you do.

Goodnight.

-Nathan


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[info]ivory_lace
2007-03-24 09:55 am UTC (link) Track This
Seriously, dudes, chill the fuck out.

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[info]double0ford
2007-03-24 10:11 am UTC (link) Track This
I'm staying right out of this one, no matter what I think on the matter.

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[info]ralmiska
2007-03-24 10:57 am UTC (link) Track This
Me too.

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[info]jetwolfgang
2007-03-24 12:37 pm UTC (link) Track This
Dear nathan, GO FUCK YOURSELF.

Good day to you sir.

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[info]jack_wolf
2007-03-24 02:47 pm UTC (link) Track This
lol

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[info]jack_wolf
2007-03-24 05:39 pm UTC (link) Track This
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maybe everyone else is just being over polite..

you are being very narsty about this, Jet's relation ship has nothing to do with you weather you like it or not, you dont seem to realise some of the joking about.
maybe it's coz your new, but stop trying to force your self into subjects/lives you've already been told to stay out of.

"You do it way too much, and its impacting on your perception of reality."
all i have to say to that is WTF?! do you seriously think that? you are "controling" i've said that more than once to you, if more than one person says the same thing without having interacted about it, then maybe you should look at that. i say your demanding way too much from people you hardly know, and pretending to know them, is just as bad..

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[info]ncodb
2007-03-25 04:09 am UTC (link) Track This
Well, i wasnt really saying if i like his relationship or not, its more a matter of how posessive he is about it. Im not trying to force my way in, im simply saying he has to let go a bit so others can communicate, because right now, i know nothing about Kidsune and i wouldnt mind making a new friend.

Though, i'd like to know how ive been 'controlling'. Throwing accusations is one thing, backing them up is what gives an argument power.

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[info]jack_wolf
2007-03-25 11:37 am UTC (link) Track This
Throwing accusations is one thing, backing them up is what gives an argument power.
i know.. but if you didnt do it, then i dont think i should either.
but how do i back up that your controlling? do i get a signed partition from everyone who knows you? or do i just get a video camera and record you when your doing it?

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[info]ncodb
2007-03-25 11:39 am UTC (link) Track This
Just tell me when ive done it.. give me examples. I'll listen.

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[info]jack_wolf
2007-03-25 11:39 am UTC (link) Track This
problem is YOU ARE saying you dont like his relationship. and thats not right. its also mean/spiteful.

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[info]ncodb
2007-03-25 11:40 am UTC (link) Track This
Im not saying i dont like his relationship! If it sounded like that, then sorry, thats not what i meant. I mean, he's just posessive and not letting anyone else talk to Kidsune.

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[info]jack_wolf
2007-03-25 01:12 pm UTC (link) Track This
so? kidsune can talk to who ever he wishes and jets not stopping him, and he does talk to everyone else. That is, if they actually have something to say.

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[info]jack_wolf
2007-03-24 02:51 pm UTC (link) Track This
okay lets use your words... "GET OVER IT!"

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[info]cyrin_phin
2007-03-24 06:37 pm UTC (link) Track This

Riding the drama bomb.

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[info]bastett
2007-03-25 04:03 am UTC (link) Track This
"Because youve got me blocked on MSN and you wont be picking up your phone, this is the only medium i know that will actually get the message out to you."

You've never heard of email?
Drama is so common around here because everyone wants to be seen as "right" in the eyes of the community, so they immediately air their grievences on livejournal. This of course forces the other to respond in kind and so it escalates.

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[info]ncodb
2007-03-25 04:11 am UTC (link) Track This
From my understanding, email is blocked aswell if its a blocked MSN contact.. I could be wrong. >_>;

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[info]jack_wolf
2007-03-25 11:40 am UTC (link) Track This
~,~ and then it doesnt stop. theres no break is there?

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[info]ceceil_felias
2007-03-25 04:51 am UTC (link) Track This
Hum de dum, I'm just a silly half-canuck, half-yank not knowing what the heck is really going on here. Not that I'd care to know regardless. Drama's silly.

Moving along, moving along. :3

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