Fellow Wingnuts, I am not sure if someone already posted this. I did a quick search on the forum and couldn't find it, so apologies if this is a double post. As you probably now, G4TV aired a 4 part show with their list of the top 100 games of all time. Wing Commander II made the list as #71. http://www.g4tv.com/top-100/549/wing-commander-ii-vengeance-of-the-kilrathi/ Here is the whole list. 100. Pong 99. Words With Friends 98. Pitfall 97. NBA 2K11 96. Guitar Hero II 95. Burger Time 94. Braid 93. Star Wars: Tie Fighter 92. Galaga 91. The Sims 90. Baldur's Gate II 89. Left 4 Dead 88. Double Dribble 87. Mass Effect 2 86. Out Run 85. Silent Hill 2 84. Wii Sports 83. Ninja Gaiden 82. Super Smash Bros. Melee 81. Resident Evil 80. Gears Of War 3 79. PsychoNauts 78. Spy Hunter 77. Excitebike 76. Blades Of Steel 75. Fallout 3 74. Starfox 64 73. Mega Man II 72. Mortal Kombat 71. Wing Commander II 70. Star Wars 69. Double Dragon 68. Prince of Persia: The Sands of Time 67. Minecraft 66. Assassin's Creed II 65. Unreal Tournament 64. NBA Jam 63. Wolfenstein 3D 62. Civilization II 61. God Of War III 60. Contra 59. Maniac Mansion II: Day of the Tenacle 58. Ultimata Online 57. Pokemon Red/Blue 56. Super Street Fighter IV 55. Kingdom Hearts 54. Gauntlet 53. Deus Ex 52. Rock Band 3 51. Ratchet & Clank Going Commando 50. Sonic The Hedgehog 49. Angry Birds 48. Tecmo Bowl 47. Must 46. Red Dead Redemption 45. Metal Gear Solid 44. Grand Theft Auto IV 43. Quake III: Arena 42. Ghosts 'N Goblins 41. Super Mario 64 40. Space Invaders 39. Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 38. Super Metroid 37. Halo 36. Batman: Arkham City 35. Castlevania: Symphony of the Night 34. Counter Strike 33. Final Fantasy VII 32. Mike Tyson's Punch Out 31. Skyrim 30. Super Street Fighter II Turbo 29. Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic 28. Super Mario Kart 27. Chrono Trigger 26. Ico 25. Grand Theft Auto III 24. Madden 2005 23. Halo 3 22. Panzer Dragoon Saga 21. Resident Evil IV 20. Call of Duty 4 19. Diablo II 18. Ms. Pac-Man 17. StarCraft 16. Half-Life 15. Donkey Kong 14. Uncharted 2 13. Portal 12. Doom II 11. The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time 10. World of Warcraft 9. Shadow of the Colossus 8. Goldeneye 7. Super Mario Bros. 3 6. The Legend of Zelda 5. Tetris 4. Asteroids 3. Bioshock 2. The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past 1. Super Mario Bros. Regards, Vic.
Ok cool, but is this serious? Where are the Commander Keen and Monkey Island series'? It seems they only put one title per series to the list, as in Doom 1 or Quake 1, 2 missing, yet some games like GTA or Zelda got multiple entries? This is confusing.
I give absolutely no credence whatsoever to any of those list shows. At best, they reflect the opinions of the show's staff, and if there's one thing I've learned about the folks in Hollywood, it's that they have absolutely no grasp on reality whatsoever. The list show that really sold me on the worthlessness of list shows was one on VH-1 of the top ten TV and movie villains of all time, one in which Freddy Krueger got beat out by the villains from Batman (the ones from the 60's serial - the one everyone involved with Batman seriously wants to forget).
Yeah, this is exactly one of those lists that nobody should care about. Bioshock at #3? Well, gee, check back in ten years and see how that's going. Doom 2 at #12? Seriously? Not the original Doom, but the lackluster sequel that disappointed everyone? Uncharted 2 at #14? Why not the first Uncharted, the one that actually impressed people? Etc., etc... Also, putting Minecraft on a list of top games is like putting Lego on a list of people's favourite sports.
I agree that the list is awful. No Dune II? No SimCity? No Falcon 4? No Monkey Island? No Tomb Raider? No Need For Speed? No Fifa? But anyway, this being the repository of everything Wing Commander, I though it was worth posting. Regards, Vic.
I agree on SimCity--it was my most-played game in the late 1980s, and one of the first major titles that did not have a defined victory condition yet was still wildly popular. Even if it doesn't count as one of the most-entertaining games of all time, it was definitely one that had massive impact on the way that both designers and consumers thought about gaming.
We do appreciate it! It is nice to see Wing Commander remembered in the mainstream (?) media, even if it is part of a very poor list. I also wonder why they didn't have Robin Williams (who shows up on some of the others) to do the Wing Commander II talking head; he was a big fan back in the day. This reminds me of an internet comic: http://chainsawsuit.com/2012/02/20/minecraft-and-other-labors/
Funny but true: Chris Roberts wanted to get Robin Williams to play the Merlin hologram in the WC movie... I don't know how that would have turned out. I don't really see that character as working with Robin's usual comic stylings. I always read Merlin as being more or less dry and straight-faced ironic kind of humor.
