When reading several threads I noticed that the messages are in reverse chronological order. If you want to follow the thread you have to start at the bottom and work your way up. That's retarded. UBB is my favorite MB but this setup is stupid. The first message should be at the top and the last or newest message at the bottom.
This message board is backwards.
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KrisV
Administrator
Darkstar said:
I like you too.
That's your opinion then. Personally, I think it makes more sense to have the most recent message at the top. Especially when a topic is multi-threaded. If you want to read the latest posts, you have to first load page 1, then click the link to the last page. That takes twice as long. And when you post to a multi-threaded topic, you're taken back to the first page, and then you have make your way to the last page again.
I suggested this change a few days ago, and everyone who replied was willing to give this a go. While this is not per se the way it's going to be forever and I don't mind anyone disliking it, it doesn't mean you have to call it retarded and start a new thread stating the obvious
Proof of that: the a suggestion thread.
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But what you describe is only valid if you have followed a thread from the very beginning. If it's a long thread by having the first message at the top at least I can see if the thread is worth following. Go check out www.Quake3world.com and www.xwingalliance.com.
KrisV
Administrator
This change was made to make things easier on the regulars. They follow threads from the beginning, or stay away all together from things that don't interest them. And long threads tend to completely change topics every x posts... in which case it doesn't matter if you're immediately taken to the oldest posts or not. It's just as much work going to page 6 as page 2 in a 7 page thread.
I knew you were going to say that. How do I know if something is interesting if I don't read it. There have been many times when I've thought that a topic wasn't interesting but I read the thread anyway and it turned out to be good. It seems to me that this has gone beyond the point of being logical and that you have taken on a siege mentality. I have been on this site before but I am not a "regular" maybe if you catered to users who were not "regulars" you would get more repeat users. BTW I apologize for using the terms "retarded" and "stupid".
Knight
Spaceman
Well, I'd imagine that main push behind it was, if you're not a regular, you're not a priority to make happy. If you only come once in a blue moon, why make things easier for you, and harder for the loyal guys who are here 2-3 (or more?) hrs a day (like myself). This setup may be harder for those who aren't here all the time, but, if you're not here all the time, you can't complain all the time can you?
And if you hang around long enough, eventually you'll become a regular and all this will make sense
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I've been on countless forums and every single one I've been on posts their threads in chronological order. From oldest to newest. Go to www.quake3world.com, their forum has 50 times as many messages and way more posts every day than this one if your method is better why don't they use it, they have way more users.
That's because Quake has more fans than WC. And that's because Quake doesen't require that much brain procesing power, so it apeals to larger masses. Besides, I don't know how long that forum was up there, but this board was taken down at the start of this year, and all posts were deleted. So all 4 BB's here have now more than 10,000 posts in 2.5 months. I'd say that's a prety high number.
Besides, so what if Quake BB has it the other way around? That doesen't mean anything. They might as well have it that way just because they have much more people. I can bet you that most of those posters aren't regulars, meanwhile most people here are regulars. If there were like 10 or so regulars, and 400 people that just post ocasionaly, and all those 400 people would want it reversed than they would probably get it.
Besides, so what if Quake BB has it the other way around? That doesen't mean anything. They might as well have it that way just because they have much more people. I can bet you that most of those posters aren't regulars, meanwhile most people here are regulars. If there were like 10 or so regulars, and 400 people that just post ocasionaly, and all those 400 people would want it reversed than they would probably get it.
Quarto
Unknown Enemy
Uh... the threads here ARE in chronological order. And if you want to see if the topic is worth reading by looking at the first post, then just scroll to the bottom. It's as easy as that
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Knight
Spaceman
Something else I want to say before comments are made that closes this, look at the PSX board, its not a UBB, but the newest threads are on top, as well as the newest posts. At least it was last time I was there lookig for info on the new PSX2. (which I got, along with a few comments on how badly the N64 sux, which I didn't care for
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KillerWave
Spaceman
The message board is way too strange, its weird to look the messages backwards
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If a topic has two pages, i have to check page 2 and check page 1 afterwards...
Its is the only messege post like that in the net...any chance it turns back the way it was?
If a topic has two pages, i have to check page 2 and check page 1 afterwards...
Its is the only messege post like that in the net...any chance it turns back the way it was?
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Knight
Spaceman
KillerWave said:The message board is way too strange, its weird to look the messages backwards(
If a topic has two pages, i have to check page 2 and check page 1 afterwards...
Its is the only messege post like that in the net...any chance it turns back the way it was?
I don't want to be rude, but are you even reading the previous posts? The main point of the "Backwards"-ness (I don't consider that way.), is to make it easier on the regular, more loyal people. I'm not saying that you're not a loyal WC fan, but the guys that come here every day don't want to have to look at the old posts before the new ones. Though, another, probably easier for everyone way for it to be, would be have them list in the oldest to newest chronological order, but have a link to the last page, near the thread's subject. I don't know if UBB supports it, so we'll let it go at that. Let me put it this way, if you were running a store, and you had people come in every day, and those people liked how you did things, but then a few new people moved into town, came into your store, and said "We don't like how you do things. Do it our way!", what would you do?
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Mad Hatter
Spaceman
I don`t see what the whole fuss is about.
The regulars, who visit this site 2 or 3 or more times a day, don`t need to see the whole thread so that they can read the new posts, so it`s good for them to have the board in reverse, and the irregulars have to read the whole thread anyway, so it doesn`t matter wheather the board is reversed or not.
They have to wait for the whole thread to load anyway to read everything.
Is it such a disaster to read posts from bottom to top?
The regulars, who visit this site 2 or 3 or more times a day, don`t need to see the whole thread so that they can read the new posts, so it`s good for them to have the board in reverse, and the irregulars have to read the whole thread anyway, so it doesn`t matter wheather the board is reversed or not.
They have to wait for the whole thread to load anyway to read everything.
Is it such a disaster to read posts from bottom to top?
Knight
Spaceman
Must be....
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Striking a man down with your blade is clean and honorable. Shooting him in the back from the darkness of an alley and hurrying to blame it on another was something else altogether.--Darth Vader
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Striking a man down with your blade is clean and honorable. Shooting him in the back from the darkness of an alley and hurrying to blame it on another was something else altogether.--Darth Vader
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