Ritual suicide

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Earthworm

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I was thinking about all that Kilrathi honor stuff, and I came up with something. Zu'kara, I'm sure all of us know what it means. For those that don't zu'kara is a ritual suicide in atonement for an act of shame to one's family, and shame on you for not knowing!
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Well wouldn't it be more logical to change that, if posible, so if you do something shamefull instead of killing yourself, you would be given a chance to kamikaze a Confed fighter or a Capship? The Kilrathi dies for whatever he did, the Cat is happy because he gets to die in combat and he gets to regain some of that honor, and the emperor is happy because his fleet has less enemy to fight. What do you think?

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If it manages to take out a perfectly good Confed carrier than it's a fair trade. They could make a small squadron, lets say 8 fighters, and they would fly straight into a carrier at the fastes posible spead. Load their fighters with antimatter bombs, or mines and the fight would be over before it started.

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A good soldier is not the one who die for his country, it's the one who makes his enemy die for his.
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If the pilot has at least half a brain, he would probably make it. At least most of the eight would make it, the pilots don't have to wory about locking onto the ship, firing any missiles/torps, they can concentrate on manuvering out of the harms way.

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A good soldier is not the one who die for his country, it's the one who makes his enemy die for his.
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Not if there are other fighters from the Cat carrier around it.

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A good soldier is not the one who die for his country, it's the one who makes his enemy die for his.
Gen. Patton
 
Yeah try aiming a gun that size at some tiny fighters. I'm sure you can't miss.
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A good soldier is not the one who die for his country, it's the one who makes his enemy die for his.
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Manuvering a Confederation class carrier wouldn't be that easy. Before the carrier could aim the gun at the fighters, she would be already destroyed.

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A good soldier is not the one who die for his country, it's the one who makes his enemy die for his.
Gen. Patton
 
The Kilrathi could also turn, to try to avoid the fighters they think are being launched from the carrier. And it's actualy quite easy to evade the PTC and antimatter guns.

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A good soldier is not the one who die for his country, it's the one who makes his enemy die for his.
Gen. Patton
 
Ok, first of all, the Kilrathi have developed the concept of a kamikaze action. The word for it is Tagugar. Related words are Kabaka and Skabak (that last one I'm always confused about - is it a noun, a verb, or an adjective?).

Secondly, the concept of loading fighters up with explosives and kamikaze'ing has been previously mentioned in WC. But not by Kilrathi...

It was Maniac, in SM 1
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. He wanted to load up his ship with a highly volatile explosive called ESK-5, and fly into the Sivar. And I don't think he was the only one. During Operation Thor's Hammer (the hunt for Sivar), the Tiger's Claw lost several good pilots who snapped in combat and kamikaze'd into Kilrathi capships.
And then of course there's Spirit. "Tengoku te omaschishi te imasu". Wow, I can't believe I remembered that one. I bet you I misspelled it though
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Oh, and one last thing.

Ek'rah skabak erg Thrak'Kilrah maks Rag'nith!

Lovely language, non?
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KILRATHI SPY

"Tengoku de omachishi te imasu" I'll wait for you in heaven.

For the glory of Kilrah, the Emperor and the Empire.



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A good soldier is not the one who die for his country, it's the one who makes his enemy die for his.
Gen. Patton
 
I thought everybody knew I was a cat sympathiser
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. I never tried to conceal that fact. Cats are cool.
 
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Um, just a question... why wouldn't these hypothetical Kamakazi Kats that we're talking about that seem to be ramming the Concordia, just cloak and then ram... That way they won't even be seen coming...

TC

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CAG of the Blacklance HQ
"Canadian and proud of it"-TC
 
Don't be silly, TC. If the Kilrathi had stealth fighters to burn, then why did we encounter them so rarely? Same with Skipper Missiles. We only saw them once or twice throughout the game. Based on the rare appearances of cloak technology, I think we could safely assume that the Kilrathi Empire has (had) no more than a hundred Strakhas. Why, what would be the point of creating the K'ha'haf if they had cloaks to spare?
 
Actually we seemed to run into a lot of them... towards the end of WC2 every second NAV point had stealth fighters in it.

TC

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CAG of the Blacklance HQ
"Canadian and proud of it"-TC
 
Not really. There were only five or six encounters with them during WC 2. First there was six of 'em when you flew in a Ferret, then another six or so when Spirit was sick. Then another six (magic number or something?
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) against you and Jazz, and then a smaller wing in the final mission. And in SO 1 and 2, they also weren't too frequent.
 
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Well, wouldn't it be costly to the Kilrathi. I mean, 8 fighters can't just appear from nowhere. Besides, any decent capital ship, which would most likely have cruisers and frigates as escorts would be able to shoot the fighters down, before they could get anywhere close to kamakazi range. How about, they cloak, and then uncloak off the starboard, fire a volley of nuclear missiles, then die? Atleast everything in the area would be destroyed. Ofcourse the nuclear missiles could be changed to whatever type you want, aslong as it destroys the capital ship. It just matters how much of the area you want destroyed :-) I'm pretty sure that they could add a few more Duracell or Energizer batteries to fighter to make it cloak longer.
 
How about, they decloak, fire off a volley of standard torpedoes, cloak again, and then let Blair get Court-Martialled for treason? We know that's worked before.
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It's been stated that cloaks are *very* expensive -- so much so that Strakha and their ilk were very rare.

As for the ritual suicide -- the idea behind it is that a warrior commits the deed because he has *already* failed in combat (or in some other manner)... a fighter would not be wasted on someone who cannot succeed. The ritual is an atonement for failure, most probably created because it allows an easy genetic 'weeding out' of those Kilrathi who are incapable of various tasks.

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But what if someone unwilingly insults his superiors? That's one of the reasons to comit zu'kara, they didn't fail anyone in battle, why not give them a chance to get back some of that honor?

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A good soldier is not the one who die for his country, it's the one who makes his enemy die for his.
Gen. Patton


[This message has been edited by Earthworm (edited January 25, 2000).]
 
It's a different culture. Western culture has plenty of second chances, last minute redemption, commit a crime & get rehabilitation not prison & so on. As far as the Kilrathi are concerned - you screw up you die. End of question.

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