Prophecy Movie Upgrade Patch Released (October 24, 2006)

Discussion in 'General Wing Commander Chat' started by ChrisReid, Oct 23, 2006.

  1. ChrisReid

    ChrisReid Super Soaker Collector / Administrator Staff Member

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    Nearly a thousand fans have downloaded at least one high resolution movie pack for Wing Commander Prophecy, and many have asked how they can integrate these videos into the actual game. HCl has created another amazing patch to make this possible. Pack one (1.6 gigs), pack two (1 gig) and pack three (550 megs) are still available for those who need them.
    Getting it all set up is easy:

    [*]Install Prophecy if you haven't already (don't forget the Windows 95/98 compatibility mode Properties setting)
    [*]Unzip the WCP enhancement pack into the game's folder (back up your Prophecy.exe if desired - the pack also enables high res gameplay modes and online multiplayer)
    [*]Create a subdirectory called movie in the Prophecy folder
    [*]Move your downloaded high res movie files into this folder
    [*]Download this VOB patch and unzip it to the Prophecy folder (it will overwrite a file you made earlier)
    [*]Start the game!

    The game will search the movie directory first, and if it doesn't find a high res file, it'll default to the regular videos on CD. This means you don't have to download all 3 gigabytes of movies in order to play. If you encounter problems, try installing this mpeg decoder, switching to a different video mode or alternating subtittles on or off. This upgrade works great for most people, but a few may encounter glitches. Feedback is very helpful at this point. Enjoy the game!

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    Original update published on October 24, 2006
  2. Mincemeat

    Mincemeat Doomsday's Neighbour

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    This is simply awesome - just like an early Christmas!

    Suggestion to HCl:
    Would it be possible to use a codec internal to the DLL for playback? That would potentially make it more controllable and avoid the "flicker" necessary to draw to another surface.



    If anybody has trouble playing back the videos, look for an application named "GraphEdit" which will show you what DirectShow filters it is trying to use.

    There are other programs which will allow changing the priority (merit) of the filters in order to eliminate incompatibilities. I won't list them here as they are way too dangerous to use - google and research the subject throughoutly if you need help in this area...
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    Mace Vice Admiral

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    Nice!

    Will a future patch enable us to put everything onto a single DVD?
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    Pedro Vice Admiral

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    HCl, the CIC staff responsible for getting the videos, aww heck everyone in the Wing Commander community, thankyou!

    In the absence of new Wing Commander games things like this keep me happy.
  5. Laserschwert

    Laserschwert Spaceman

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    Very nice patch... great work!

    Any chance getting something similar working with WC4? I've got the DVD-version off of eBay, but my native language is German (so having the whole thing in German would make it even more immersive). I also have the German 6-disc version, so putting the German audio of the movies into the VOBs won't be a problem. Yet, the rest of the game (of the DVD-version) is still in English, so having a VOB-patch for the CD-version (or a language-file patch for the DVD-version) would be just awesome...
  6. Walter

    Walter Guest

    Really great, Thank you very much!!!
  7. KrisV

    KrisV Administrator Staff Member

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    This sounds like a lot more effort than it's really worth. Would you personally mux the German audio into a couple hundred VOB files? Would anyone else? I'm also not sure how watching people talk in a voice that's not their own could be considered immersive.
  8. Unregistered

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    What a narrow-minded answer...

    I know that dubbing isn't that popular in America (most movies are made in English anyway). But Germany is known to have the highest quality dubs in the world, and probably the biggest industry for it. 99% of the movies are getting dubbed here, and as a movie lover I love original versions just as much as their translated and dubbed versions.

    WC 3 & 4 were treated like a major blockbuster production, so the German voice actors in the game are all well known from several movies. Ergo the immersion is immense!

    By the way, re-muxing the videos can be done as a batch job, so you just have to rip all the movies once, demux them, and remux them with the VOBs. Most steps can be automated here.
  9. Laserschwert

    Laserschwert Spaceman

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    Oops, forgot to login... so that post above this one is mine.
  10. Bandit LOAF

    Bandit LOAF Long Live the Confederation! Staff Member

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    Damn those narrow minded Americans!

    ... who, Kris' case, are from continental Europe.

    (Also, the German dub of Wing Commander IV was done right here in Austin, TX -- the American game designers went through great pains to make sure the game would be available in English, French and German when it came out.)

    I can't comment on switching all the VOBs. I know that they're not *exactly* the same in the PC and DVD versions, though, and it might not be a process that it's easy to automate. Maybe there's some way to do it, though -- but it's probably a job for someone willing to do hard work (and who knows German) rather than a technological trick for HCl.
  11. Unregistered

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    Mmh... actually I didn't mean the "narrow-minded" and the "America" part to go together... anyway... ;)

    Usually with a game of this size, the dubbing is a collaboration between a German dubbing-studio and the publisher. (Though obviously not all the time, since "Half Life 2" got an awful German dub, with mostly American's playing the parts... German with American accent... almost as bad as the other way around).

    Regarding the VOBs... re-muxing them would only make sense if they could be integrated into the German version of the game. Otherwise the whole thing would be pointless.
  12. maniac89

    maniac89 I love Wing Commander: Prophecy

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    Urgh, I have a problem.

    When a video starts in the game, it plays, but about ten times before the video starts I'm greeted with and error message: "This program requires the file advrcntr2.dll, which was not found on this system." Also during a movie, if I press Esc, it frezzes, forcing me to close it.
    How do I fix this? I would appreciate any help.
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    @Laserschwert

    Do you have such a batch file for Prophecy already...I'd appreciate having a german version ;)

    Regarding WC4 it is not as easy as for Prophecy. The Intro has severeal scenes the CD version hasn't.

    Btw.: With glide mode the videos have blue bars instead of black ones. If I switch to direct3d they are black as they should...but direct3d (looks like 8 bit texture s!!!) looks like shit compared to glide...

    Any ideas?
  14. Unregistered

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    I'm not planning on doing that right now ;)

    And for WC4 it would probably best to somehow combine data-files from the German CD-version with the english DVD-version... although that's probably impossible.
  15. HCl

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    Thanks for all the feedback, guys! Answering individual questions:

    Mincemeat: Yes, it would be possible to integrate everything in the DLL instead of using DShow, and doing so would probably help solving certain issues. However, it would make the patch more complex and most likely introduce other limitations, so i'm trying to avoid doing that (however the idea is not out of the question either... it will depend on what problems come up with the current implementation).

    Mace: Yes, a future version of the patch will search for the movies on a DVD. No point on burning those DVDs just yet though..

    maniac89: No clue about that one, i have no idea what advrcntr2.dll is supposed to be about. Maybe you have some strange DShow filter installed (try checking with GraphEdit). Does installing mpeg2dec help at all?

    Sordid: I'm looking into the problem. Unfortunately it is not something i am able to reproduce here, but there are a couple of things i can try. I will be uploading a new DLL sometime tomorrow for testing!
  16. maniac89

    maniac89 I love Wing Commander: Prophecy

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    Damn. I just installed mpeg2dec, and same problem.

    Well, I'll keep trying...
  17. Walter

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    I would second Mincemeat's suggestion, when this solution would reduce the flickering during switching between movies and game parts. Especially using 3DFX mode this is a little bit bothering.

    The patch only works for me, when I have subtitles enabled, otherwise I only hear sound, but have on picture.
    Normally I prefer playing without subtitles, so it would be really great if this could be remedied with the next version of the patch (maybe this is also related to Direct Show?)

    Other than that, this is really good. Thanks again!
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    Great Work now on for WC3

    Great work out there. I really loved WC5 but the moviequality was always worse than WC4 DVD. Therefore playing the whole saga one by one was putting WC5 to shame.:rolleyes:

    Now how about mixing WC3 for PC with movies of the 3DO and PSX versions ? WC3 on PC has the better flight engine and flight graphics but the movies were a big reason for buying a 3DO. Anyone out there with the ambition and knowledge to start the whole thing ????:D


    @Laserschwert: Good to see you here. I am a big fan of your LucasArts-Soundtracks-Homepage.
    But the voice credits for WC4 weren´t as good as for WC3. Cap. Eisen´s voice in WC4 German was in no comparison to WC3 German. But nethertheless I am glad to watch the movies and enjoy the games in translation.
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    Hello!!!
    I did every thing what chrisReid wroted about movie pach. I didnt dld first and second pack (only third)I also install mpeg decorder into WCP dir and clicked on reg.bat file, but still nothing, I reinstall and insall game again with no result.

    Hi-Res. is doing fine and I also played game on windows XP without Win95 compability. Then I activate win95 try again and also NOTHING!!
    I really dont now what to do more!!
  20. KrisV

    KrisV Administrator Staff Member

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    Did you unzip the pack? You say you skipped packs one and two? Maybe the video you're trying to watch is in one of those.

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