My attempt at a Bengal

Eder

Eder

Mr. Standoff
Here, 2000 triangles of pure WC1 nostalgia:

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I couldn't find a use for this model yet, and I probably won't, (at least not in the Standoff storyline) but I'm going to texture it anyway.
I'll use this as an experiment to make more convincing capital ship textures, as opposed to the current cartoonish ones (fear not, all capital ships will be redone once I've perfected my methods). I'm thinking about making different versions: the Tiger's Claw, the Wolfhound, and the Dauntless (from UE), but I only know the Claw's number, so I'm going to start with it :p
Sounds like a lot of work for something that isn't even in the plans for my mod, right? Yeah, I know, and I don't care. <G>

Oh, yea, feedback's welcome!

--Eder
 
Originally posted by Eder
I'll use this as an experiment to make more convincing capital ship textures, as opposed to the current cartoonish ones (fear not, all capital ships will be redone once I've perfected my methods).
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Huh... I've seen your so-called 'perfected' textures on fighters, I'm not sure I'll enjoy the capship ones so much. :p Only kidding, I'll wait before I make any judgments.
 
That's a nice model Eder.

Mekt, don't you mean a sneak attack with stealth craft, in pure self-defence?;)
 
I mean a preemptive strike using any tactical advantage given against an enemy Strike carrier on attack course on K'tithrak Mang. Pure self-defence. :)
 
Nice, real nice :). The only thing that I don't think is quite right are the four outcrops along the sides of the front. I don't remember what they looked like on the diagrams, but in this case it seems to me that the back two are a bit too flat and too large, while the front two are too thick, and they may be just a tad too far back.
Oh, and the BWS Dauntless is CVA-02 ;). Mind you, we already have quite a good Dauntless and will not replace it in-game, but yours is - as usual - higher detail, and who knows when a high-detail D might be needed for some other purpose?
 
Hmmm, everything is about as accurate as it gets when compared to the Claw Marks schematics, but I haven't checked with any other sources (in game graphics, landing scenes, etc) so I don't know how the model compares to those... this may be the reason why you think those areas look strange - and I do agree that those things on the very front look too fat.

Anyway, as for using the model in UE, don't even bother trying :p I'm sure all kinds of complications are implied in converting a ship to the SO engine... especially a capship with a lot of faces and textures, and etc. (I'm actually working on lowering the detail and the number of textures on my Rapier II-A model to see if I have the skill to get it into the prophecy engine, but damn, this looks too complex for me!)

Though if anyone wants this model, or maybe if you guys ever do a UE 2 <G>, you know where to ask... I'll have this thing lying around for a while. As I said, I have no use for it, just did it for fun... that's the whole point of this all, isn't it? :)

---Eder
 
Originally posted by Quarto
...the BWS Dauntless is CVA-02...
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What does the A stand for? Strike? I understand BW designations should be different - Tiger's Claw was CV-07, right?
 
Originally posted by Wedge009
What does the A stand for? Strike? I understand BW designations should be different - Tiger's Claw was CV-07, right?
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Don't it stand for "attack", as in F/A-18 Hornet?
("attack" designating a *ground strike* role, as well as standard fighter [air to air] capability?...)
 
CV and CVA historically have been pretty much the same thing -- your standard fleet carrier. For example, The ESSEX-class in WWII were designated CVA-x; however, most of the carriers prior to that class's introduction were CV-x.

I've always thought of it as a change in the mind-frame of a carrier's role. Prior to WWII, carriers were largely thought of merely as providers of recon and spotter aircraft for the battleship fleets. Once the war started, and the importance of carriers and their planes as an OFFENSIVE weapon became very quickly apparent, the designation changed to include the A, the A meaning 'attack', and referring to the aircraft the ship carries, not the ship itself. Nevertheless, you'll often hear of WWII carriers referred to as 'attack carriers'.

FWIW, the V in the designation stands for the Latin term for heavier-than-air, describing the aircraft the ship carries. Thus, what you essentially have is a "carrier of heavier-than-air aircraft" prior to WWII, and a "carrier of heavier-than-air aircraft for attack" as the war progressed.

There is, though, no real difference between CV and CVA as far as the ship itself.

You DO have others, though:

CVL - light carrier
CVE - escort carrier
CV(N) or CVA(N) - fleet carrier, nuclear
CVS - historically anti-submarine, but strike carrier in WC
CVB - battle carrier (50's concept)
CVX - experimental carrier
 
Actually, CVS does not mean a strike carrier in WC nomenclature - the Confederation class are not strike carriers, they're dreadnoughts. Also, CVX does not necessarily mean 'experimental' - it could very well mean 'mega carrier'. After all, the Midway is ever so much more than an ordinary carrier ;).

The Bengal strike carriers were indeed referred to as CV, but in WC the term CV tends to be used, uh, broadly. Heck, even the Vesuvii use it. Apparently, however, there were also 'attack carriers' in WC which used the CVA designation - according to the CIC ship list, there was a TCS Trafalgar in End Run that was a CVA.

As for the Dauntless, I didn't want to use CV for everything like in Confed, so I decided that CVA would mean strike carrier. Seems to make sense to me :).
 
Originally posted by Quarto Actually, CVS does not mean a strike carrier in WC nomenclature - the Confederation class are not strike carriers, they're dreadnoughts.
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And what is a dreadnaught in WC terms? For all intents and purposes, a carrier with enhanced offensive capabilities. Or, in other words, a STRIKE carrier. :)

Originally posted by Quarto Also, CVX does not necessarily mean 'experimental' - it could very well mean 'mega carrier'. After all, the Midway is ever so much more than an ordinary carrier ;).
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But it IS still in the testing stage. Sorry, but the X means experimental, even in the case of the MIDWAYs.

Originally posted by Quarto The Bengal strike carriers were indeed referred to as CV, but in WC the term CV tends to be used, uh, broadly. Heck, even the Vesuvii use it.
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Of course the VESUVIUS-class used it. CV means 'fleet carrier', which is precisely what these ships were. Very LARGE fleet carriers, but fleet carriers nonetheless.
 
IIRC, LOAF said that once the Midways were fully operational they would have been given a designation of something like CV-80, CV-81, etc.
 
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