meisdavidp said:Did not you just make a pointless comment?
Don said:hmm...perhaps i did. So what did FatCat mean about the "Furry Community"?
Bandit LOAF said:I certainly wouldn't run the people in charge of the franchise at the time (Rick Berman and Brannon Braga).
Bandit LOAF said:As for the director... I don't really think it matters who directs a Star Trek movie.
Bandit LOAF said:Meyer rants about how angry he is that the viewscreen wasn't made of glass while Baird rages about how important Tom Hardy is. Neither of them seems to be clear on exactly what a Star Trek movie is or what makes it good.
Bandit LOAF said:The TNG movies did well with First Contact, which was the least like the show
I've personally never understood anyone's problems with Berman or Braga. They were around during some of the best moments of TNG and DS9. To shake your fist at them because you hated a couple of things while they were doing dozens of great things is stupid.
I don't think Star Trek V was all that great, given the lopsided direction of Shatner. While I do agree that Star Trek has a set standard in terms of formula, I do think that the director really sets the tone in terms of movie quality. I personally love Generations as a guilty pleasure movie - but it looks like a really expensive TNG episode or just a cheap film with beautiful lighting.
I've not bothered to listen to the director commentaries because they tend to be incredibly boring to me unless its a very unusual movie (The Limey) or the director is a really interesting personality (Conan The Barbarian)
Though I have strong dislike of the Borg episodes of Voyager, I do blame the look and feel on First Contact which was a strangely boring movie. TNG was my favorite of the five ST series because I grew up with it but the movies were almost completely shallow and worth little more than seeing half-ass director Bryan Singer getting sucked out the viewscreen. (That'll teach him to make crappy superhero movies!)
LeHah said:I've personally never understood anyone's problems with Berman or Braga. They were around during some of the best moments of TNG and DS9. To shake your fist at them because you hated a couple of things while they were doing dozens of great things is stupid.
I agree, Picard as a 24th century Rambo was ridiculous & killing off Data was downright moronic.Maj.Striker said:... Nemesis was (in my opinion) a case of extremely poor writing to begin with...
Star Trek VI definitely has the best story (who wrote it, btw?) but I like watching ST II : The wrath of Khan a little bit more.Maj.Striker said:In my opinion, Star Trek VI was possibly the best trek movie made. There's none of them that I dislike but VI was just absolutely fantastic. Christopher Plummer was phenomenal as the bad guy and the entire movie seemed to hit everything just right. To me, that is the standard to which hold all the newer star trek movies to ...
Halman said:What a stupid thing to say.
I don't think it's stupid. He's just saying he's a Star Trek fan and supporter who will still be there to see the movie when it opens but he thinks it just may be a little too soon to re-start the franchise. What's wrong with that?
Except for the make-up, they went romulans at all but humans, they behave like humans in every way & this is believe is mainly the fault of the director. He clearly didn't know what Romulans are like. He should have at least watched the TNG eps. with Cmdr. Tomalak
Star Trek VI definitely has the best story (who wrote it, btw?) but I like watching ST II : The wrath of Khan a little bit more.
Bandit LOAF said:The problem is that it's a silly internet catch phrase, not something anyone has given reasonable thought to. The idea that Star Trek needs to "rest" might (and it's a very distant might, in my mind) make sense if you're speaking in terms of some immeasurable recharge required of the people currently in charge of the show... but when the news is that an entirely *new* team is going to be running Star Trek, the concept loses whatever shread of relevance it once had -- JJ Abrams isn't burned out on Star Trek.
Confed said:Concerning ST XI : They're risking the entire future of the franchise on this movie & messing with the Kirk & Spock character is extremely risky.
I hope J.J. Abrams is a real trekkie (TOS style), otherwise I fear he will mess it up just like what happened with the Romulans in ST X
Althought the writer describes those elements in the script, he has no control over the actors' performance afterwards.Bandit LOAF said:Those sound like elements that are decided by the *writer*.
At least after viewing the Wrath of Khan, you immediately know they will bring him back thanks to "the Genesis effect". Data however is not coming back, we are only left with his idiot brother B4.t.c.cgi said:An ignorant outsider killed Spock once. People bitched up and down the street when that idea was announced.
Killing off popular characters in a show is an excellent way to decrease the quality of future movies/episodes as well as piss off the fans. It is rarely a good move.t.c.cgi said:You can draw your own conclusions, but fear of outsiders is really odd because outsiders bring things that the original cadre wouldn't have dared doing, such as killing main characters that are invincible by default, or opting for militaristic uniforms over utopian scientist garb. Really a director should be judged by his track record, not how many episodes he has memorized.
His track record : Zero experience directing Star Trek or anything like it.t.c.cgi said:Really a director should be judged by his track record, not how many episodes he has memorized.