ARGH THAT KAMEKH HAS A SMILIE FACE I CAN'T UNSEE IT!!
That doesn't put the Privateer Drayman in the lineup though! So I guess that's THREE Drayman? And the Galaxy, and the WC3 and on transports (which presumably existed at WC2 and WC1 timeline, but weren't shown?)? Are there any other cargo/merchant ships in the lore (other than the Privateer 2 ones)?
Ok... why exactly must it be a typo? What does the Tallahassee's size have to do with this? What, apart from the scale of a model in a game that doesn't bother keeping models in the right scale, prevents the WC3 frigate from being 620 metres long in your eyes? Why exactly is it inconceivable that a frigate - possibly the least understood ship class of the WC universe - would be longer than a cruiser?And the frigate... must by a typo. The model on the WC3 files and in WC4 are just about 330m long. When you see the cutscenes from WC3 and WC4 its clear that the Talla is 620m and the Southampton around 400 - 430.
Now, I personally favour the idea of the Paradigm being a lighter ship, more comparable to an upgraded Kamekh than a Gilgamesh. This certainly helps to resolve the issue of its manual stats, which don't make it seem at all as powerful as any other destroyer out there. But there is no real evidence that this is the way it should be.
That doesn't put the Privateer Drayman in the lineup though! So I guess that's THREE Drayman?
So the earliest thing which is definitely called a 'Frigate' in confederation lore is the WC 3 and 4 Caernaven, at 620 meters? Were there any Frigates in the animated show, or the book lore?
Well, it's not the armament but rather the armour and shield stats I was thinking of. However, looking over the manual stats again, I come to the conclusion that yeah, there's nothing especially "weak" about the Paradigm's stats. In fact, if we compare the Priv manual stats with the in-game stats from WC2, we find that the Paradigm is actually superior to the Gilgamesh in armour. Of course, it would be more proper to compare the Priv manual with the WC2 manual (or even the WC3 manual, since this is 2669! Let's not go there...), but that just doesn't seem fair given how WC2 went and multipled its capship armour tenfold for the purpose of the manual.Mostly, though, I worry that we're going against the intent of the Paradigm and only the Paradigm for no particular reason other than that it's kind of weird looking compared to ships introduced later. From the rendering and the description in Origin FX and just the role in Privateer (two of them is an impressive fleet!) it was clearly imagined as a powerful warship... so much so that they had to embiggen the Kamekh in the manual to match it.
Hmm, now that's something I hadn't even noticed before. Do we ever see Confed Caernavens in WC4, or just pirate ones? I think we see Border Worlds ones...... and honestly we can take the damn thing's name the same way. Yes, the Wing Commander IV novel identifies the pirate frigate as a modified Caernaven-class ship... and in the same breath it points out that the Confederation has retired the ships! So why we take one bit as gosep and push aside the other is something of a mystery (save the age-old desire to have a name for every ship.)
Hmm, now that's something I hadn't even noticed before. Do we ever see Confed Caernavens in WC4, or just pirate ones? I think we see Border Worlds ones...
I've noticed that a lot of people agree that the Paradigm looks wrong for the style of blocky (presumably because those were easy to repair in wartime...) Confed ships.
Has anyone made a, you know, modified version of the Paradigm to look more appropriate for Confed and their stylistic methods?
There's so much factual information that people don't know, do we really need to make presumptions like that? (blocky ships are easier to repair?) I ask because so many of these offhand comments have made it into the fan lore over the years.
"Stylistic methods" change drastically with each new game engine. Has anyone tried modifying an Exeter or Murphy to fit better with the Confed stylistic methods we see in employed throughout the Gemini Sector in 2669?
Well, what I mean is -- I am hardly the only one who feels the Paradigm looks out of place from the entire rest of the Confed lineup...