The picture on the site is actually one of the frames from Lt. Freyers' animations.
Actually, there were two supply depots you destroy in WC2-one with Doomsday in Noveya Kiev, and the one you and Angel take out while the Concordia hides in the asteroid field.Originally posted by Starkey
So load them up with Flak cannons, like that supply depot in WC2 (Korah Pokh).If he uses WC1 flak, I´ll just ram the capships turrets with my Broadsword, like I usually do in WCP/SO.
Ramming the turrets? When did you find that necessary? Or was it just you wanted to have some fun with the little buggies instead of shooting them?If he uses WC1 flak, I´ll just ram the capships turrets with my Broadsword, like I usually do in WCP/SO.
Originally posted by Eder
Capships are much harder to kill than in WCP, mainly for two reasons:
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And BTW, we're still trying to figure out wheter stuff like AMGs and the PTC can be implemented
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Well, AMGs would probably mean total annihilation for anything that's weaker than a Crossbow. The problem, though, is not how to display the AMGs. We have a big nasty bullet for them already... the problem is that AMGs would probably only be fired in capship-to-capship combat, and I'm not sure it works very well in the Vision engine. Quarto probably knows wheter we can do this or not, but I don't think I've discussed this with him yet.Originally posted by Starkey
Well, yay again! Can´t wait to play that game! If you can figure out how to display the AMGs, which kind of damage will they make? (the PTC´s damage is obvious - total annihilation
) from near the end of Special Operations 2, when Concordia blows a Kamekh apart? Assuming of course that you can use it in the game/a rendered cut scene. I myself would prefer the plasma torp.
Yes, that's probably how it'll work if we decide to include it. This way, the AMGs won't damage capships though (well, they will if they hit, but the problem is that capships don't know how to aim at other's ships components - they just aim at the center of the enemy capship's main hull).
Maybe, yes, but I'm not sure. Like I said, we'd need to figure out how to get capships to aim at individual components. Also, this would tremendously unbalance missions, since as much as we tried to make things always happen within some limits, the same mission could be a lot harder/easier if some unlucky fighter(s) crossed the path of the AMG shots, thus leaving around a capship that was supposed to be gone already.
If we could mess around with capship shields that much, it'd be heaven
I could make torpedoes lock on the hull instead of on separate components, make torpedoes lock on corvettes, etc., and make everything more WC2-like. Unfortunately, I'm pretty sure this is far out of our possibilitiesI tend to favor the highest-resolution source available, so the PTC would look like the one we see in the SO2 cutscene.Originally posted by SabreAce
For the PTC...will it be a giant pink ball that looks like it came out of a giant particle cannon like it did in WC2's game engine, or more like the plasma torpedo sort of thing (the Star Trek fan in me comes out
I think the simplest way to implement AMGs is the way we implemented the Venture's forward guns. This would, however, limit their effectiveness quite a bit, because they would only fire if something was directly in front of them. Effective enough if you want anti-capship fireworks, I guess. The problem with this solution is the refire rate... IIRC, all turrets fire at the same rate, right?
.Oh, allow me to shed some light on this matter - the in-game stats are different to what the manual says. The Supply Depot in fact has four flak turrets. To make things more fun, the Dorkathi has three flak turrets. That's why the Novaya Kiev mission is such a nightmare - since there's Dorkathi parked alongside the Depot, you're going up against seven flak turrets
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I't not out of our possibilities at all. We discussed it for UE but didn't use the idea after all: just make capships with one single component: the main hull. Even capship component names are editable, so this is not a problem.Originally posted by Eder
[...]This way, the AMGs won't damage capships though (well, they will if they hit, but the problem is that capships don't know how to aim at other's ships components - they just aim at the center of the enemy capship's main hull).
Maybe, yes, but I'm not sure. Like I said, we'd need to figure out how to get capships to aim at individual components.
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If we could mess around with capship shields that much, it'd be heaven
A ha! So the manual was again wrong. I'm not entirely surprised. So does this mean that the flak cannon count on other ships is off as well i.e. K'tithrak Mang only having 2?Originally posted by Quarto
Oh, allow me to shed some light on this matter - the in-game stats are different to what the manual says. The Supply Depot in fact has four flak turrets. To make things more fun, the Dorkathi has three flak turrets. That's why the Novaya Kiev mission is such a nightmare - since there's Dorkathi parked alongside the Depot, you're going up against seven flak turrets
Sounds like a good idea, but then it might unbalance the torpedoes. If it's set up that an AMG shot equals, say, 4 torpedo strikes, then when it takes 3 AMG shots to destroy a destroyer (I think that's the number of hits a Ralatha took from the William Tell-in the Tesla system, IIRC), you need 12 torpedoes to do the same thing, if everything is kept fairly relative to each other. And since the torpedo carriage levels are only doubled (I think that's the amount Eder said), that means that you'd need a whole squadron of Broadswords and maybe a few modified Sabres to deal with just a couple of ships. Although, that's probably more realistic, to send a squadron after one or two ships (as opposed to WC2's method of sending 2 fighters after a fleet).
While I feel I might be a weaker pilot than some other players here, I never seemed to have much problem with WC2, if only because it was my first WC game. Or maybe I'm just more patient. I just cleared out the fighters, then approached the Dorkathi in a way which would leave the supply depot furthest away. After killing the transport, it's simply a regular torpedo run.
