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... To Zombie, since he died and came back to life, only to die again (I guess the cats got his head the second time around.) But seriously, I started this thread as a less rigid - and more appropriate - place to argue the finer points of including the Movie continuity with that of the games...

Sorry I got emotional there, LOAF. One of those days, and there's no "inflection button" on the keyboard to help encode our typing with our intended tone. I will admit that I allowed my romanticism to get the better of me. But can you blame me? The original games shaped a huge chunk of my...

I can't recall exactly, but I think Maniac wanted to do that, but Archer talked him down from it.

I realize it's cliche for people to hate EA on account of their marketting regimen, so I understand the presumption you made, but I was actually talking about EA versus Chris Roberts. Dualitous to state when it comes to not accepting the movie as game-continuity? Yes, I realize this. I'm...

True, it's been while since I've seen the specific episode. Your point stands.

I think the Viper / Ferret comparisons occur from the fact that the original Viper had the same paintjob colors as the Ferret. (as did the X-Wing)

A jump is essentially a brief jaunt through a wormhole-like anomoly. It's never exactly shown as 'instant' in the games. Even in the film, time stops during the jump. There certainly is movement occuring there, we just don't see it - except for in Academy. Ever play FreeSpace? Their 'subspace...

The idea that it isn't, at least for me, is that things didn't make sense to me - up front. The quality of the movie has nothing to do with it for the sake of argument, regardless of what Roberts hoped to accomplish. Paladin being french. Angel being british. Tolwyn going from Concordia, to...

Right, I wasn't arguing that the movie doesn't take place before the dates of Wing Commander 1's events - I was merely indicating that the movie doesn't necessarily fit cleanly into the first game - and I don't believe there was an intent to do so until after the fact, where people like us...

Wing Commander 1 here, as well. I still think the paintjob on the Scimitar is the coolest. As for Privateer, I would have lumped it with Armada. Armada expanded on some of the feel of SWC, which Privateer also shared to an extent. Plus, they had a ship in common; the Gladius. I'd have to say...

If it helps, I recognize and agree with LOAF's observation. I always took it as Tolwyn being privy to something strange, but not knowing what. He knew the Confed forces weren't responsible.

Yep, though the Kilrathi are so much cooler. A disgraced warrior who later committed zu'kara for delving into the darkest regions of human culture.

Is it just me, or isn't it folly to try to wedge the events of the movie before WC1? I always considered the movie to be a different continuity; a creative re-imagining on behalf of Roberts. In the film, Rosie does give Maniac his callsign. He's referred to as 'Marshall' before that, and he...

I just got a funny picture in my head of someone spritzing Hobbes with a spray bottle every time he did that, and him running away.

The cover from the Board Game 'Twilight Imperium' is pretty overt, even down to the cloth colors and metallics.

I'll never forgive Hobbes for scratching up the good felt on the poker table in the officer's lounge.

I have no problem helping out, either, if you guys want to do an impromptu WC-based one. It's pretty simple, and I've been doing it for so long that I've got hosting down to a science. I do free-form, as opposed to simulated dice or whatever. Imagination/GM-based resolutions, as opposed to...

Well, I'm an audience. :( I'd love to get something started on around the time of the Vega Campaign, on another carrier. No crazy new alien races or magic or whatever these people are throwing in; I'd like to play a WC RPG based entirely in Wing Commander. I've run, and still run...

Yeah, kinda lost me with the detailed recollections of things I wasn't a part of. ;) Still, are there any viable RPG's running anymore that are more canocal? I wish I could pinpoint my first online experiences. I started BBS surfing in 1991, and in 92 or 93 I remember having a couple trial...